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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-07-2017, 08:06 PM Thread Starter
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First topless attempt

So I took the move about 4 months ago to sell my trusty 190ltr corner tank I have had for years to a 4ft 260ltr topless tank.

I've always loved the look of planted tanks and always wanted to try an open top with plants growing out.

Unfortunately I missed my initial setting up as I wasn't a member of the forum but would like to now track the progress.

Tank: 4ft long 260ltr

Lighting: Fluval fresh & plant 2.0 46w LED
3x spot lights each with 7w cultervating LED bulbs

Filter: All pond solutions 2000ef+ UV system

Substraght: Tetra Active Substrate topped with natural crushed coral

Fillers: 3x large slate slabs, bogwood and mangrove root

Plants (in tank): Xmas moss mainly, various other mosses, banana lily, red tiger lotus, anubus and a couple others I had in my old tank I don't know the name of

Plants (top of tank): devil's ivy, peace lily, dwarf iris, various wondering Jew, ivy, more Xmas moss and some others I was given to try

Plant feeds: easy life easycarbo liquid and a Columbia flora grow which I bought by mistake and caused an algae bloom

I have more plants turning up tomorrow which I will update.

I am wanting an umbrella papyrus to grow out of the tank but wondering how easy it is to control? Any thoughts?
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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 08-09-2017, 04:07 PM Thread Starter
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Well 2 months on, I have added the diy co2 flowing through a small pump to atomise the co2 bubbles.

Had a bit of a change around with the plants and raised the light to try to stop the green hair algae.

Starting to think it is the fertiliser I am using causing the algae to keep blooming Colombo flora grow plant fert as it increases 24hrs after dosing. I have ordered some Seachem to see if it makes a difference.

The top of the tank has grown a lot but currently looking for something with thick reeds or bushy to go at the back of the tank. A few of the plants that have floated up such as hair grass has started growing in the moss.
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Man that looks amazing,
But maintaining the scape must be a pain with all that moss you have to lean over and get soaked by?
All in all Amazing tank loving the look. maybe a little jealous
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post #4 of 16 (permalink) Old 08-09-2017, 04:45 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you.

To be honest the height of the tank is perfect to get your arm in. Rim of the tank is middle of my chest, not by design though, more by luck I do have a long tweezers and cutter for trimming and planting.

I have gone a bit crazy with the moss, the back of the tank is all green mesh with moss growing through it, I have reduced the amount on the slate shelf by 2/3 because it was harbouring green hair algae and then I have it growing into the tank from the top. I do like moss though.

It's a mix of fire, java and Christmas mosses.

I am not sure what people will make of my tank but I like it and it's all experimental.
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I was really looking forward to pics, then I found out I misunderstood the title.
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Me too 😜


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I like this a lot. You've incorporated and highlighted so many aspects of planting. This will be is a joy to watch.

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post #8 of 16 (permalink) Old 08-12-2017, 01:02 PM Thread Starter
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Thought the title was quite descriptive

Wish I had a fast forward button lol I will be happier when the stem plants thinken up but it feels like forever.

Seachem tabs turned up today so hopefully they will help the plants thicken up.

Still trying to find something for the top of the tank at the rear. Thinking maybe some kind of wet rooted fern if there is one?
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Crushed coral substrate is very plant unfriendly... I have barely been able to keep plants alive... and only anubias and crypt ponterifollia where as they have grown exponentially in other tanks. I used it to raise the hardness and pH in my African cichlid tank and in the last 18 months it has slowly killed nearly everything I've put in over time. I think you would notice vastly improved results by removing as much as you can and replacing it with something else. I actually grow my plants in other tanks now and rotate them into that tank for a couple months then back out to recover.
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Yes it is one of my regrets using the crushed coral. But I did this before I got into the online forums and I have always used crushed coral in the past for the look.

I have been wanting to switch it out to something more plant friendly but its going to be a big job and trying to find the time to do it hasn't been easy

Strangely the plants at the top of the tank have not been bothered by being planted in crushed coral.
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Yes it is one of my regrets using the crushed coral. But I did this before I got into the online forums and I have always used crushed coral in the past for the look.

I have been wanting to switch it out to something more plant friendly but its going to be a big job and trying to find the time to do it hasn't been easy

Strangely the plants at the top of the tank have not been bothered by being planted in crushed coral.
It will be a pain and may cause a mini cycle... and it would probably take a few water changes to bring the hardness and pH down to more suitable levels.
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It's been a while now so thought I would just post an updated picture.

It has progressed a heck of a lot since my last posts. As you can see the emersed plants have now merged with the submerged plants.

Only real changes I have made are changing the flow direction and add a co2 reactor. The reactor alone made a massive difference to the growth of the plants.
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Very impressive. Is it a lot to maintain?

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Not really. Daily ferts when i feed the fish and once per week it has a 25% water change and every 2 weeks a filter clean and new yeast co2 mix. When I do those I trim off any dead leaf or thin out anything blocking the light.

Other than thats what I call normal, I need to top the water up once or twice a week as it's open and there are a lot of plants with there roots it the water.
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That looks fantastic! It gives me hope! I have everything to set up pressurized C02 on my cichlid tank, but I just haven't taken the time to hook the reactor up to the canister or even made room for the C02 tank. Quite honestly I wasn't confident that it would make such a tremendous difference given the substrate. Looks like there is hope after all!!

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