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Just throwing this out there - not as impressive as many I've seen, but this is my first try at more than just an anubias or 3. This is just after planting - no fish yet - about a month ago.

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Substrate: Activ-Flora Black
Light: Finnex Planted+ 24/7
Filter: Eheim 2213
Excel everyday, experimenting with ferts (mostly trace/iron/K - plenty of N&P from waste)
Planning for pressurized CO2 *sometime soon*.

Flora: DHG, s. repens, bacopa monneri (or caroliniana, I forget), amazon sword, crypts - just planted some pogostemon erectus (can't see it yet in the pic)
Fauna: 2 panda cory, 3 harlequin rasbora (will get to 5 eventually), 4 cherry barbs, 3 neon tetras (will get to 5 eventually)

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Looking good! Maybe you can hide the heater behind the wood if its completely horizontal and as low as possible?
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Looking good! Maybe you can hide the heater behind the wood if its completely horizontal and as low as possible?
I was thinking about that... the pogostemon should grow up and cover it tho (as well as the airline). I may also move it all the way to the left.

Not sure yet if I like the piece of wood on the right.
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nicer than mine when I first started! but a planted+ 24/7 without co2? or just without 'pressurized' co2? watch out for algae if no co2.


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nicer than mine when I first started! but a planted+ 24/7 without co2? or just without 'pressurized' co2? watch out for algae if no co2.
Flourish Excel is doing both carbon and anti-algae duty right now - a little bit of hair algae, but nothing major. The bacopa has easily added an inch or two since I planted it, and I am even seeing new shoots coming up around the DHG plugs. But the CO2 regulator is being ordered this month Just trying to figure out which diffuser I want.
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1 month of growth - sides are really filling in - tops on bacopa are starting to branch, crypts and s.repens have grown, DHG throwing runners.
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Crypts and bacopa have really grown, DHG is slow going - definitely sending runners, but the new injected CO2 system should help. Got a few pieces of duckweed from a fish transfer... now it's growing all over the place - scooping out a handful every week to keep the light bright.

Dealing with some hair algae (not unexpected) and some diatoms I think... a brown film on walls and plants that the ramshorn snails seem to like.



New equipment! Finally built my CO2 reg - full dual stage VWR 55850, post-body kit from DIYCO2Regulator (Clippard solenoid, Fabco valve), fluval bubble counter, into a self-built Griggs reactor (back right).



DHG runners (I think I need to trim that a bit to encourage carpeting), and a nerite munching away.
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Well, plants seem to like the CO2 change... everyone is pearling today
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So evidently plants like injected CO2... who knew?

2 weeks after installing CO2 system, and everyone is reacting well - lots of runners off the DHG, new leaves on all the bacopa stems. S. repens a little slower - it seems like they might need a little shade - the ones under the bacopa and crypts seems to be fuller and greener for some reason.

Put 4 amanos in (finally found them locally) - they are fun to watch A little change-up in stocking (made the mistake of buying original fish from a not-so-good LFS - most died off, just weak fish, as the rest have been fine, although I don't rule out the tank being not quite settled yet after cycling) - mostly just the cories and long-fin zebra danios.

NO3 is starting to drop rather than rise during the week, as is P, so started dosing 2x/week - enough to keep them @ 20 & 2 respectively. Still dosing trace, iron and K in proportionate amounts the next day.

Bump: Yes, I know there's algae on the back & side glass - made the mistake of putting the tank a little too close to wall, so I can't get the magfloat back there... need to get a scrubber with a handle.
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Argh... attack of the thread algae. Plants are taking off due to CO2 and being closer to light. Not sure if I am short on ferts, or over dosing... co2 and light should not the problem now (still trying to dial it in so I get a pale green in the first 2 hours on the drop checker)
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Thread/hair algae is still plaguing me. CO2 definitely making things grow better, but something is missing - hair/thread algae is a daily chore to pull it out.... it's not very "stringy" though - it pulls apart real easy, instead of tough threads I can wind on a toothbrush - I had that in my other tank, it it grew much slower, and I could easily pull clumps out.... not sure what this is tho.
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Time for a Fauna update.
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Time for a Fauna update.
Heh - well -my first batch didn't work out so well - looks like it may have been gill or body flukes - random fish would stop eating, and just waste away. Treated with PraziPro as a precaution, and everyone seems very happy now.

Current inhabitants:
7 longfin Zebra Danios
6 Serpae Tetras
2 Panda Corys
8 Amanos

Nitrates drop by about 2ppm a day and phosphates by 0.5, so starting to dial in the plant uptake needs. dosing to keep it around 10:1 ratio every third day (also dosing CSM+B and Flourish iron in very small amounts)

I'm hoping the hair/thread algae is/was a lack of nutrients, and the plants are just not out-competing it.
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Finally looking better - finally fixed the algae problem I was having - a weekend blackout + big water change killed about 90% of it - new plant growth seems to be keeping it in check. Had to trim the bacopa on the left, but it'll grow back in.

The crypts got huge for a 20H - wasn't expecting them to get that big - have to figure out how to prune them down without having them melt on me
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