Office Tank 2017 - The Planted Tank Forum
 12Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-02-2017, 12:09 AM Thread Starter
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
puopg's Avatar
 
PTrader: (16/100%)
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 799
Office Tank 2017

Decided to have a tank at my office desk. Funny thing is, initially I wanted to keep it simple with just some moss and shrimp. But then I started thinking about just how cool other plants I wanted to grow would be and how hard it would be to grow them well without CO2. So I decided, I'm gonna figure out a way to go all out. I hope you guys enjoy some of the pics and the many tribulations that are sure to happen! Happy growing!

Specs:
Tank: AZOO FLEXI-MINI
Light: AZOO FLEXI-MINI LED Light
Filter: Dennerle Scaper's Flow
CO2: Custom regulator w/ GLA atomizer

Accessories:
- Pinpoint pH Probe
- Hanna Alkalinity Colorimeter


Hardscape:
- ADA Amazonia Powder type
- Seiryu and Ryouh Stone (FYI, KH is not stable with these stones. Not sure which one, but it sucks having KH go 4 -> 7 in a week)
- (Technically I tried out some ADA substrate additives but I don't like admitting to it lol. Shouldn't be needed)


Fauna:
Some mix of PFR, cherries, 3 amanos, and 2 OEBTs (per request by coworkers)

Flora:
Almost all of the plants came from tissue cultures since my shipment arrived dead .
- HC
- Staurogyne Repens
- Anubias nana petite
- Rotala Green
- Rotala H.Ra
- Hydrocytle Japan sp mini
- Mini pellia


============ MOST RECENT PIC AS OF: 8/7/2017 ============



After Planting:
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0583.jpg
Views:	100
Size:	152.7 KB
ID:	752586  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0587.jpg
Views:	95
Size:	154.9 KB
ID:	752594  

Dman911, Dman911, ambe and 3 others like this.

Last edited by puopg; 08-09-2017 at 09:44 PM. Reason: Image fix
puopg is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-02-2017, 12:26 AM
dru
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
dru's Avatar
 
PTrader: (1/100%)
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Earth
Posts: 669
Pic is not working but sounds like a cool setup
dru is offline  
post #3 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-02-2017, 12:27 AM Thread Starter
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
puopg's Avatar
 
PTrader: (16/100%)
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 799
The next 4 weeks are critical to establishing the plants in a planted tank so I water changed 50% each day for 2 weeks. Then I reduced that down to every other day for another 2 weeks.

Given the low plant mass initially, I followed a very lean EI dosing regime for the first few weeks. Most of the plants in the tank are from tissue cutures since the plants I had ordered from our trading area arrived dead. So I decided to give them a try and they are pretty neat! The rotala tissue cultures are pretty small so it took a while for the plants to grow tall enough to get light above the rock.

The Dennerle filter has been awesome. Super quiet, I literally don't hear it unless my ears are an inch from the filter. Perfect for the office.

CO2 goes on 2 hours before the lights
Lights go on @ 2PM and runs for 8 hours with a 30 minute siesta in the middle of the photoperiod.
Water changes are all performed using RO water and remineralization with Bee shrimp GH+. Given a tank of this size, RO water is very simple to do at my desk.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0589.jpg
Views:	111
Size:	161.7 KB
ID:	752602  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0594.jpg
Views:	82
Size:	181.1 KB
ID:	752610  


Last edited by puopg; 05-02-2017 at 01:19 AM. Reason: Why is it combining my posts????
puopg is offline  
 
post #4 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-02-2017, 12:38 AM Thread Starter
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
puopg's Avatar
 
PTrader: (16/100%)
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 799
Filter adjustment!

Around this point in time the shrimp were about to come in, but I noticed surface scum was a problem. I had no room for a skimmer and the lily pipe vortex simply did not provide enough. Also, the lily pipe requires a specific water level to work properly which sucks since there is a ton of evaporation in the tank. So I modified the filter a little bit to enable a few things.

1. Custom flow adjustment
2. Surface agitation and flow direction
3. Custom acrylic tank cover for evaporation

I achieved this using a simple flow valve and using a part from an old Rio powerhead. Now this is the current filter setup and I have a nice amount of ripple. And I don't have to top off the tank as much.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0758.jpg
Views:	77
Size:	147.3 KB
ID:	752626  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0757.jpg
Views:	79
Size:	51.2 KB
ID:	752642  


Last edited by puopg; 05-02-2017 at 01:06 AM. Reason: Sometimes this forum editor......
puopg is offline  
post #5 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-02-2017, 12:49 AM Thread Starter
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
puopg's Avatar
 
PTrader: (16/100%)
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 799
Plants filling in!

It has probably been about a month now and thing are starting to grow. I had some diatoms on the rocks and some tiny hair algae, but once the plants started going, I knew it would be fine.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0629.jpg
Views:	92
Size:	163.1 KB
ID:	752650  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0652.jpg
Views:	77
Size:	163.8 KB
ID:	752658  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0682.jpg
Views:	107
Size:	161.1 KB
ID:	752666  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0683.jpg
Views:	82
Size:	139.1 KB
ID:	752674  


Last edited by puopg; 05-02-2017 at 01:08 AM. Reason: Adding pics
puopg is offline  
post #6 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-02-2017, 01:10 AM Thread Starter
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
puopg's Avatar
 
PTrader: (16/100%)
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 799
So this is about where we are at now, the tank is in stable growth mode. I swapped out my CO2 atomizer for a GLA one since the white one just couldn't keep up with the levels I needed. I have trimmed the tank once and am now waiting for the S. Repens to grow back.

Bump: Ill need to trim the Hydroctyle on the left soon, but for now im just going to let it grow out. Kinda cool. I mowed down the S. Repens and its coming back now.

Something that unfortunately did not work too well were my substrate support system I tried to make using corrugated plastic board. It's simply not strong enough to hold all the aquasoil in place. At least not in the way I placed it. As you can tell, the substrate is falling into the HC from the top.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0705.jpg
Views:	78
Size:	169.8 KB
ID:	752682  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0713.jpg
Views:	84
Size:	127.4 KB
ID:	752690  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0715.jpg
Views:	79
Size:	154.3 KB
ID:	752698  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0754.jpg
Views:	78
Size:	114.9 KB
ID:	752706  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0755.jpg
Views:	98
Size:	166.8 KB
ID:	752714  

puopg is offline  
post #7 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-09-2017, 03:18 AM Thread Starter
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
puopg's Avatar
 
PTrader: (16/100%)
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 799
Something I am working on now is learning how to "shape" the background stems. Im going for a nice dense bunch of rotala in the background. From the things i have read and seen, seems that I just need to keep trimming stems that get too tall and let them produce more tops.

Overall health is alright, I see some very thin layer of BBA on the rocks. Im probably just going to let it chill there and ill hit it with some H2O2 when I water change. We'll see how things go, but I probably could also bump my CO2 up a little. For now, things look alright.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	File_000.jpg
Views:	109
Size:	144.3 KB
ID:	755290  

puopg is offline  
post #8 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-09-2017, 04:31 PM
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: UK
Posts: 83
Fantastic scape!
ambe is offline  
post #9 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-09-2017, 04:44 PM
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (1/100%)
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 110
Very cool, looking to start my own desk tank soon.

edit: what are you using for CO2?
SeaCur is offline  
post #10 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-09-2017, 05:04 PM
Algae Grower
 
KWaters's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: May 2017
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 24
Great aquascape, the amount of detail is impressive for a small tank. I will be doing a shrimp tank of similar size soon, and although my layout will be simpler, you're giving me a lot of inspiration.

Adapt and overcome.
KWaters is offline  
post #11 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-09-2017, 06:25 PM Thread Starter
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
puopg's Avatar
 
PTrader: (16/100%)
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 799
Quote:
Originally Posted by SeaCur View Post
Very cool, looking to start my own desk tank soon.

edit: what are you using for CO2?
I run pressurized CO2 as you might have expected. Regulator is custom built from someone here on TPT but it was near the cheaper end of them so about $250 or so. Diffuser is a GLA atomic diffuser which i recently switched to and it can output much higher levels than my other white one. Just look at the previous photos and you'll see the diffuser in the tank changed. I monitor CO2 using the pH probe and the Alkalinity colorimeter but I also record the value on the metering valve handle so that in case I bump it with my foot or something I know what it was at.
puopg is offline  
post #12 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-09-2017, 06:38 PM
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (1/100%)
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 110
Are you running a paintball size tank or something larger?
SeaCur is offline  
post #13 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-09-2017, 08:05 PM
Algae Grower
 
Alf2Frankie's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: UT
Posts: 113
I like how you let the mini pellia grow out and cover up more hardscape in the last pics - very natural look. How long did you dry start the tank?

recognize the OODA loop within everything you do
Alf2Frankie is offline  
post #14 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-09-2017, 08:31 PM Thread Starter
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
puopg's Avatar
 
PTrader: (16/100%)
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 799
Quote:
Originally Posted by SeaCur View Post
Are you running a paintball size tank or something larger?
No I run a 10 lbs CO2 tank. Less refilling needed.

Bump:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alf2Frankie View Post
I like how you let the mini pellia grow out and cover up more hardscape in the last pics - very natural look. How long did you dry start the tank?
I dry started for only 1 week. Actually the only reason I dry started was since I was afraid the tissue culture plants were going to die since I had them chilling in their plastic pots for a week prior. But totally, dry starting longer would have allowed for roots to develop more.
puopg is offline  
post #15 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-09-2017, 10:12 PM
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (1/100%)
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 110
Big desk, I'm wondering about what I can fit at mine. My room is very sunny, so I think CO2 will be a necessity.
SeaCur is offline  
Reply

Tags
aquascape, shrimp

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Planted Tank Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome