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I have had this tank set up for about three months or so and have of course re-scaped a few times already. Not really trying to achieve any certain style but it seems dutchish.

I really liked the look when it had java fern in it but was having difficulty with algae because I wasn't regularly pruning and thinning the leaves which hurt flow but I found an excuse to get another tank to put it into which is in this journal; 15 gallon low tech Crystal Red Shrimp tank

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I just did a re-scape of the tank today so here's how it now sits; https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oz0i9_PWZSE

Here is what it was with the java fern;
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rE8h5-VcFhs

My German blue rams eating a ghost shrimp;
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fG7EkUEmTaY

Right after a trim of the pearlweed;
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju0J4-FO0NA

Currently the tank has:
Pearl weed (just trimmed all the way down)
Lobelia cardinalis mini
Ludwigia ovalis (recovering, recently chopped)
Ludwigia super red (recovering, recently chopped)
Bacopa (not sure which variety)
Hydrocotyle tripartia

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German blue ram pair
6 White Cloud Mountain minnows
6 neon tetra
3 otocinclus
Bunch of snails doing their thing

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40 breeder
30" finnex planted +
Aquaclear 50
Eheim 350 skimmer
Aquatech regulator mini
24oz paintball cylinder
Cheap metal check valve
Plastic bubble counter
Cheap glass diffuser

What do y'all think? Needs to grow in a bunch now but should really start looking good in about a month.





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That pearling video is awesome!


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Thanks to both of you! The pearl weed grows like crazy but I'm excited to see the blyxa and ludwigias grow nice and thick.

I added a submersible pump on the opposite side of the aquaclear to try to avoid dead spots
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Here are a few random pics of the tank. Sorry for the cell phone pics. Quality is rough. We haven't had an actual camera in years because we always use our phones. Click image for larger version

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Also notice my janky ass light setup. I "needed" to get this tank setup in place of my older 20long. I used wire hangers that I bent into place. The wire hangers surprisingly fit perfectly into the leg openings on the side of the light. I drilled small holes and used hook screws that have a rubber coating which grips the wire hanger really well. It's difficult to remove the light to wipe off the underside so I feel pretty confident it's not going anywhere. I know it's not the safest thing of course but I have dropped this light straight into the water before with amazingly no ill effects. This light of course makes things hard because of the spread. If you look at the long pic you'll see the spread. Makes stems in the back lean forward. It will be nice to eventually get this tank out from under the counter on a stand with 2x finnex 24/7's. Click image for larger version

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Well I'm now amazed at how well Shrimp can hide. I put two Amano shrimp in this tank about two months ago and I didn't see them again after about two days so I assumed the rams ate them. Well low and behold I found a living Amano (med size) yesterday. Must have been hiding in the mass of java fern. The rams were trying to eat it but this guy is tuff and fast. It was fighting the rams off and then bolted into the middle of the lobelia cardinalis mini. I think I'm going to put the rams into my shrimp tank (no shrimp in there yet) and get maybe ten amanos in the breeder for a couple of months to let them grow some and let the plants thicken up again.


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Yea my amano shrimp hide extremely to the limit in my five gallons, can hardly see them but time to time...
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Very nice! What's the make/model of that corner pump? I might want to try something like that.

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Very nice! What's the make/model of that corner pump? I might want to try something like that.
Thanks!


https://www.amazon.com/Uniclife-Subm.../dp/B00ZW6OHHY

Adjustable which is nice.

If your talking about the skimmer it's an eheim 350 skimmer


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That's the one I meant, thanks!

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Been having some issues with my ludwigia repens and super red getting deformed leaves. Have moved things around a bit for better flow and co2 and will be slightly modifying my dosing. Here's a thread talking about it: Twisted, deformed growth

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Well seasons changed and the sun starting hitting my tank through a sliver of window and got me some green water
So I took it as an opportunity to completely redo the tank.
The plant bin I also put my fish in the bin and put in a small pump to circulate the water as this rescape took from 10pm to 3:30am. Long but fun as usual. I decided to use some drift wood this time. I boiled the wood as I find this is the quickest way to water log wood I also decided it was time to paint the background black which my son helped out with I wanted the wood to sit a little higher and hopefully focus the attention on the rule of 1/3's so I purchased some cheap gravel and used lava rock chunks to build a hill found an open box sun sun 304b cheap which I was stoked about. I will be adding a reactor soon for better co2 saturation and distribution. Here's finishing adding back the substrate which is a mix of ecocomplete, black sand and cheap gravel under the roots.

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I ended up tossing more than 50% of the original plant mass so it will take some time to fill back in. The focal point is hopefully going to be the ludwigia super red that is positioned in and right behind the roots but it will take a month or so to get bushy again. I may switch this plant out to a different red plant (suggestions welcome) as this plant has been causing me some headaches with poor leaf development. I'm thinking Monte Carlo for the foreground. The pearl weed got old for me pretty quick but I do have some growing nicely in my 15 gallon. Just grew very fast and gets tall as it spreads out. Want something that will stay lower.

Side note; the ludwigia repens deformed growth pretty much went away by me not dosing micros at all for the past ten days or so. I put dosing on hold when the green water came on.

Tell me what you think. Foreground ideas and possible replacement ideas for my lud super red mini.

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Monte Carlo sounds like a good idea. I would also look into other smallish foreground plants maybe like Pogostemon helferi to fill out the front area, as a carpet covering that whole area may get boring.


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Monte Carlo sounds like a good idea. I would also look into other smallish foreground plants maybe like Pogostemon helferi to fill out the front area, as a carpet covering that whole area may get boring.


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Picture two months from now when the lobelia is thick and taller and the blyxa is a little taller and much thicker and same for the background stems, where would you put downoi? Maybe in front of or near the lobelia for leaf shape contrast? I love the stuff. My image of this scape would be tallest in back left moving to shortest in front right. Thanks for any input.


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I was thinking anywhere in that open space mainly on the right in front of the Blyxa.


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