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45cm Ultum Nature Systems [One Month Update]

Starting the hobby again. Keeping it small with a 45cm UNS rimless I picked up at ADG in Houston a month ago. Specs:

Tank:
45cm 9 gallon rimless

Substrate:

Aquasoil

Hardscape:
Granite I got from a trip to Taiwan

Equipment:
GLA Gro-1
Kessil A80
Eheim 2213
Jardli Lily Pipes


Plants:
S. 'porto velho'
H. 'monte carlo'
A. reineckii 'mini'

Rotala 'H'ra'
Myriophyllum 'Guyana'
Hydrocotyle 'Mini Japan'
Anubias 'nana'
E. tenellus
E. acicularis


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Going for just RCS. No fish.

Going for a standard rock and stem planting with a mixed carpet. I think the tank will be filled on Sunday if my work schedule isn't too bad. All the equipment is just sitting in the closet.

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Sounds like you've got a nice set up! Can't wait to see it up and running!


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Been busy and not much going on. Here are the ~40lbs of rocks I dragged over from taiwan. I was torn between this and hakai stone. But the hakai ended up being too dense to practically bring in my check-in. Also leak testing the tank. Bonus dog picture.
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Acid washed the rocks with HCl to make them all evenly colored. And filled the tank. All the plants except the 'Monte Carlo' and Anubias are TC plants. I'll update again if anything interesting happens. I'll probably have to figure out something about the background. I was really lazy with planting the fore ground. Figured I'd let whatever roots, to root and then hack off anything that didn't in 2 weeks.

As for a word about the Kessil A80, it's a great light for a tank no more than 18" wide at its widest. I can see it lighting a 18" cube with med light easily. Any tank shower than 15" is probably going to be high light (Very subjective opinion). Color adjustment isn't the best but I think it's a nice light for a decent price. The shimmer on the tank is very nice too.
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I really like the hardscape, although as you said the foreground looks messy. It should grow out nicely though, and look more calm. Although it may be worth planting everything well and properly so they have the best chance to grow well. Plants growing healthily is important part of having the tank succeed. IME rotting plants are usually the a huge cause of algae.
Anyway, looking forward to this growing out it should look fantastic, especially once the Rotala starts to peer behind the rocks.


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Yes. I will be keeping an eye on the monte carlo. The other plants in the back are planted better. I think the key to keeping this tank algae free is that the tank was planted with 0 empty spaces of soil in the back and that these plants are all tissue cultured/emersed grown and low on algae. I'm also going to do something a little different:

1. Follow ADA's guidelines of feeding only potassium and micro nutrients until the excess nitrogen in the soil has been depleted.
2. Using seachem advance for some phytohormones. Although I don't have any evidence, I think it will help the TC plants convert. Tissue culture plants are grown in a reach sucrose media that's supplemented with vitamins and phytohormones. I hope that the Advance will help them transition between the two environments.
3. Using seachem stability to reign in the amount of ammonia in the aquarium. ADA uses bacter and calcium supplements in their soil and for a reason I think.

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I have also been pondering about ADA's regime and may follow it for the next tank, because I use Aquasoil. The leaner dosing method may also be more favourable for tanks which are quite hardscape heavy, and as you said the soil itself already holds quite a lot of nutrients. There is a definite reason why ADA doses those exact mixes of nutrients at those certain times, so I'm starting to think the more heavy-handed dosing regime I use may be exacerbating algal issues. I've noticed specifically ADA do not dose phosphates for quite a while if at all.
Also, interested to here your experiences with the Advance, saw it at the LFS and it piqued my interest. Obviously it will be hard to determine whether it is infact the Advance which is helping rather than other stuff, but still interesting to see the results.


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All the plants are alive thankfully. Showing usual nyctinasty, which is a good sign. The E. tenellus is growing a lot faster than I thought it would, which may be problematic. The new stolons are very red/orange, maybe the leaves will be of similar color. Cool thing with having a point source light is that all the plants are growing towards the middle of the tank. We'll see how this makes them look in the long run. I got some tissue culture H. pinnatifida from petsmart...which doesn't look too good so I ordered some stems while those grow out.

Doing 50% WC every day. Ammonia 1-2ppm. 0 trites, 0 trates. Hopefully the cycle will be in full swing by the end of this weekend. I may consider heating the tank to speed things up. The water is at about 70-75F most of the day.

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That's an awesome looking dog, it's an Akita right? Tank looks great too, keep it up.

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Yep Japanese Akita. Tank is coming along...It should be looking pretty different in a week.

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2 week updates:
1. Swapped out the kessil A80 for a twinstar light. The kessil is good and gave me ridiculous growth and I liked the cooler colors. The rotala is already reaching the surface!) However, the geometry of the scape meant some critical areas were getting not enough light. I will keep it around for when I do an island type scape instead of the concave type.
2. Started dosing phosphorous today as I am noticing some hunger in the plants. Very lean dosing though, nothing close to EI. Still about 50% of what PPS-Pro would use. Starting to get diatoms, but that is OK.
3. Ammonia 0 but nitrites are sky high.
4. Glued h. pinnatifida to the rocks on the right. They are very obtrusive right now but once they fully attach and sprout new leaves (ones that grew in my tank rather than from the seller) I am going to do the following:
a.) Defoliate all the old leaves to force them smaller
b.) Lop off the top and reattach them lower down on the rocks.
c.)Prune them aggressively so that I can get a tight ridge of hygrophila in the mid ground right in front of the rotala 'h'ra'
I think this can be accomplished in about 1-2 months.

I think the tank will be cycled this weekend, at which point I'll be adding some half dozen amano shrimp. Will also trim some time this week to tidy up the foreground.

What's interesting is that the limnophila 'mini' is growing a lot slower than I thought it would. It's growing well; but compared to its full sized version it is growing rather slow. As for whether or not the seachem advanced helped anything? I think it did. Everything is rooting quite a bit. Almost, a little too well. I've never had anubias attach so quickly to rock.
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