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Those gobies are beautiful! Do you do a lot of live foods? Any aggression since they all occupy the bottom?


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Those gobies are beautiful! Do you do a lot of live foods? Any aggression since they all occupy the bottom?


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Thanks, I came for the plants and left with gobies and plants.

Live foods:

Yes, I feed heavily on live foods.
Black worms, brine shrimp, and some other.
I suspect one can feed general foods for most of them, but I wouldn't run against the laws of the species too long without observation.
"Surviving is not Thriving", is a heck of a great tip in other hobbies as well.
- Good flow, Algae and Live foods are such a plus.
- I can see it in the behavior.

High oxygen, good flow and live food get them to behave in what I would consider a positive way.
They have not sent me an email yet, but they seem really happy.

The guys online have a special mix/paste that they smear on the glass tea-light candle glass that sinks to the bottom.



Daphnia and brine:

I need to order a daphnia culture and set it up with a bubbler.
O'leary has a really good video on them.
Most of the culture methods out there look like a mosquito mess, so gather the best tips from all the info out there and modify it to your liking.
I just bought my first bottle of dry brine eggs to hatch out in batches.

- Everybody in the tank really loves live foods.
- The Red rutilaureus, and Red annieae, and amano shrimp are usually on the pleco's Zucchini.
- The snails and shrimp pick away at leftovers.





Aggression:

Semi - aggression between The Stiphodon, Sicyopus, Rhinogobius, and unknown bumblebee males do their regular thing.
Minimal damage.

Eventually, The Desert gobies will be too much for each other.
They keep breeding anyway (free live food). I so see a small nip on a fin of the 2nd male with full color as well.
2 males. 1 suspect male. Six total.

48"x24" inch bottom.
The gobies have a ton of caves and rock caves/homes as well.
They do use use the caves a lot and seem to like the tank.

The tank is pretty bare at night when observing later on in the night with a flashlight.
- only the plecos and shrimp are out on the 3rd shift.
- a L200 green phantom runt that grows so slow is in there too as well as a little blk/wht Adonis pleco.







Below is what a goby tank should look like.
I believe he grows algae on the rocks in another tank.
I'm still getting a grip on the goby info.

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Last note.
Replace all water submersed AC pumps with DC pumps(feed mode timers).
Hydro-sponges in conjunction with submersed sponges do well with a skimmer for all the heavier oils or films in the tank.
Live foods do seem to have oils that can be seen on the top.
The Seachem Tidal 110 can get turned down for feeding.
The Tidal model 110 uses about 12 watts.

This new Aqua Medic DC pump runs about 12 watts as well.
The output will be Lock line adjustable fittings or nothing.






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Amano shrimp, Rabbit snails breeding, pipefish, gobies and dwarf gobies.
2 Cobalt EXT canisters filters crammed with foam throughout internals and low bypass modification trick.
Tidal 110 hang-on with lots of modified foam.
Ehiem Skim350.
Titanium 300 watt heater and Inkbird controller.

Simple hard to kill plants and driftwood.





















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Incredible. Is that tank to the left a vivarium? I would LOVE to see more pics of both as well as the gobies. This is one of my favorite tanks on this site...

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Incredible. Is that tank to the left a vivarium? I would LOVE to see more pics of both as well as the gobies. This is one of my favorite tanks on this site...
Ah!

I didn't get the notification on the thread for quotes.
Thanks for the positive reply.

Nope not a viv.
That is a 74gal. 24x24x30 with 8 pea puffers, two red lizard whips, 3 Nannoptopoma sp. Peru - Orange Zebra Otocinclus, and 2 Stick farlowella cats.




Gobies:

Stiphodon zosterophorum.



Stiphodon surrufus. Tiny. They fit on a quarter.






Stiphodon cf. rutilaureus. Fast and pretty.



Stiphodon annieae.






Sicyopus exallisquamulus.



Sicyopus discordipinnis.


Stiphodon ornatus.



Stiphodon percnopterygionus




Stiphodon semoni,
Stiphodon atropurpureus,
Stiphodon elegans, and some more too.
Glass goby, Bumblebee goby, and a ton of rabbit snails, chopstick snails and other weirdos.


3 different species of freshwater pipefish as well.

Long Nose Freshwater Pipefish - Microphis brachyurus aculeatus "Cameroon".
Rainbow pipe - Microphis deocata.
Dwarf - Doryichthys martensii.

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Pea puffers, amano shrimp, gobies, pipefish, rabbit snails, stickfish, red lizard cats, a motorized skylight shade, and the internet on the wall.



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This is so cool.

Could you give us a front view of the goby tank?

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DC, your 80 gallon is amazing! I have an 80 with the same dimensions but rimless. You have me seriously thinking I put way too much light above mine.
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Just read the whole thread.

Very cool and interesting tanks.

Unique presentations that create a very relaxed tranquil vibe.

I like them. Very well done.


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This is so cool.

Could you give us a front view of the goby tank?
Hi,

Thanks.
Oh, try to use the quote tool for the forum.
I'd never even know someone asked a question without coming back to each thread to see.

I think there is a decent amount of history here on this goby tank thread.
Below is a pic from a few months ago.

Two Kessil A80 is all you need. They are on the lowest settings.
The twinkle from them is spectacular.

As for plants, most of the people here hate Kessil, but I don't get too deep into the planted tanks as much as most here on the forum.
Anubias, Anubias nana, driftwood in the background, and Crypt wendtii is all you need for a decent green tank with Kessil A80 lights.
Most planted tank people shun simple tanks like this, but the noobs that come into the room seem to sit and stare like zombies.
The zombie stare is when you know you did something right.

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PIPEFISH (top view).


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This year I sold off a lot of old equipment and dove into the largest 2 models of canisters from Eheim (2262 and 2217).
The Goby build now only has two Eheim 2217 canisters and an Eheim 350skimmer for some film clearing.

For the inside of the 2217 canisters, I trust using layers of good foam sponge (similar to a sump) in the setups.
Most of the foam I like to use has developed a giant body of biological slime with some minor mechanical filtering depending on the last layers of the foam in the canister.
The porosity or ppi that works well looks like the blue color Seachem/Tidal series hang-on filter foam that comes with the Tidal series filters in the box.

I noticed the Eheim 2217 replacement foam discs (box with set of 2 foam discs) are tighter in porosity that what comes from the Eheim 2217 canister filter complete system.
The factory foam in the canister is seen on the left in the photo.
The much tighter replacement Eheim 2217 foam (the 2pk) is on the right.
- I'm not sure on why this is, but it seems to work with the half/half idea.


The 2217 canister now gets half and half.
Half the open pore blue foam with the other half of the tighter pore foam in the last part.
Seven (7) blue discs fit in a 2217 model canister.
Six (6) blue foam discs with two (2) white poly filters with fit just perfect for a water polish too.

Weekly water changes flush out just about any particles in the water.

The tank looks nice.
TrippLite makes a great power strip for the pumps and gadgets on the tank.



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We just hit the mark for zero ferts, not even potassium anymore...
'just add fish turds and country well water before it gets to the softner.

I have not seen this point of NON FERT usage yet.
Usually we do potassium for yellowing here and there.
I get to toot the NO FERTZ horn.


Two Eheim 2217 spraybars from 2 canisters on right.
Nothing but Blue Eheim factory foam discs running top to bottom for canister media (no rock bio media, none).
Ehiem 350 skimmer under centerbrace in shadows keeps the film down.

Gobies everywhere, old amano shrimp still alive, and freshwater pipefish still alive.
-nature in a glass.







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