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X45's 225G project tank build

So I purchasd a 225G that was in rough shape. The plastic frame is completely shot, so going to have to figure that part out and do some type of alternative bracing. The tank has corner overflows and the rear of the tank is drilled. There are three holes in each overflow, two down low and one at the top. I plan to do a bean animal system. It is going to take some figuring and weather the current holes will work or not. The other problem is were the tank will be located one end will be exposed and don't really want to see the overflow there. So can I run on just one of the overflows or do I need both. I can design the stand/ canopy to cover the overflow.

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Planted tank, medium tech, dosing. Not planning to run pressurized CO2 just yet.

Pool sand for substrate.

30-40 neons or cardinals
30-40 rosboras
20-25 runnynose or bloodfins
15-20 corys
10-15 otos

This will be my first sump tank, so some learning to do. Done a lot of reading and I think I have it figured out. Planning to use a 30 gallon tank for the sump.


I will build the stand in the next couple days. I have the tank completely disassembled and will put it back together once I have the stand build as a working table.
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Started the stand. Should finish the structure today and hope to get the glass prepped for assembly.
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Stand is done. The facade and canopy will come later. Didn't get much cleaning on the glass. Just not enough time in the day with kids activities.
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Decided I may have to reconsider my sump. Just not enough height under there. May have to build something.

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Well aparently it going to be a CO2 tank. Just bought a CO2 tank and regulator setup.

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Not sure what your budget is but if you're doing CO2 on a large tank and don't have the height for a sump, you can always look at the Nu-Clear canisters from inland seas.

I have them on my 120G, and using an Iwaki 70-RLT I get totally outlandish flow (REAL 800-900GPH, not some rating BS) and very little noise. They also have the advantage of not losing your CO2 when it passes through like sumps tend to do.
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Did a little scratch removal today. Lots of work, but looks much better.






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Decided to make some changes to the stand. Made it 6 inches taller to accommodate the 20lb co2 tank. Changed the posts in the back to make room for the sump tank. Finally ready to assemble the tank.


What do you think of this sump layout. Very simple. Water will flow from left to right. Foam, then lava rock probably add another layer of foam. Open area. Foam. Then pump chamber.


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Great work on the stand!


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The stand looks great, I have some beef with the sump. If you do as you plan, there will be a lot of channeling around the bio media which is not something you want. Also, lava rock is not as porous as you would imagine. Pumice is a much more suitable bio media. I would add some actual baffles to the sump so the water has to flow through the bio media. Your current design will require that the bio media be as tall as the entire sump so that water simple doesn't just flow over the top of it.

I have changed my opinion on baffleless sumps in the past year or so. I do not think they are as effective as a sump with baffles. I can tell you from personal experience that I had issues with my baffleless sump and channeling around the bio media.

I'm not sure what you have planned for plumbing, but you may find your sump to be smaller than you would like if you run a separate pump for your CO2 setup, multiple heaters, a return pump suitable for 200+ gallons, and potential reactors in the future. I know the 1:4, sump:display, is a rule for salt water, but I tend to apply it to my tanks as well.

Good luck! Just some food for thought.


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What prevents the water from channeling with baffles. I've considered baffles but just can't wrap my head around the advantage.

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What prevents the water from channeling with baffles. I've considered baffles but just can't wrap my head around the advantage.

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The baffles allow you to make the compartment with the bio media more efficient. It's sort of hard to explain without drawing a diagram, but I'll try and come up with a HALF decent example. Imagine the water flowing through your sump is a fish in your tank. Without baffles you are chasing it around with a small net. The fish can easily swim to the side and avoid the net, the net being your bio media. A large net is like a sump with baffles and forces the fish into the net. Water will flow through the path of least resistence. Without baffles you leave yourself over to the water flowing right over top of your bio media. I flow 2000 gph over an 18" wide baffle and the water is only about 1/2" high. You could, potentially, flow all the water directly over the media if you don't force it down and up.


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