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Here we are today!


Friday: Uprooted and bunched more plants together.

Saturday: Drained 80 in the shop, broke down the 40. Still yet to clean the plumbing out. Old styro-concrete hardscape is trash. Something got behind it and "Ate" the Styrofoam? Half of it is missing and I've never seen it floating in the tank. At 11pm tank was filled and filter/CO2 on.

Sunday: 4am finally to sleep. Cleaning more plants all day.
Hope the small buce can handle the Excel and H2O2 without melt?

PITA cleaning all these plants, so much went in the trash. BBA, snail eggs, dipping and so on. Trying to have a good start with this.
Now I have to figure out where it is all to be placed in the tank.
I think I have the week to get this done, plants are weighted in some way.

Thought about this tank way too much, as in how to really make it right.

No fish in this tank, after cleaning the 40, fish poo grows BBA quite well in all of the areas you can't vacuum or get too. Maybe as this tank matures I'll consider some shrimp that will fit in with the water parameters.

Ferts in a dirted tank, thought about this way too much.
I am dosing the water column based on plant consumption for now.
It is a very lean approach for now, see how it goes.

No moss either, once introduced the tiniest piece begins a jungle.

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LOL, tanks are supposed to be relaxing. So, why do I (we) get so stressed out on the weekends when it's time to do maintenance? I feel your pain!!!


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LOL, tanks are supposed to be relaxing. So, why do I (we) get so stressed out on the weekends when it's time to do maintenance? I feel your pain!!!
This was a planned tank swap weekend for me.
Yes under the gun to get it done.
Normal weekend when the weather is good I am trailblazing through the woods on my horse.
Friday was so bad I should have built an Ark!

Normal "Maintenance" never an issue a little every day during the week.

Planted about 25% this evening.
Very hard to decide where it will all go.
I think I have way too many plants, may rehome to other tanks.
Didn't help that I bought a pot of Stellatus @ LFS today, but $5 got 18 stems.
The only substrate that may show might be only @ the front side of the tank.


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Journal of My 80 Gallon Tank

I think the plant mass is great what you have. Look at it this way. The more plants the less chance for algae. I love heavily planted.

Oh I see you said that is just 25%. Lol. How are you going to fit 75% more plants in there?


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Looks like you are really getting somewhere now.

Lot's of possibilities there. Looking forward to seeing how things progress from here.


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@clownplanted I actually planted 25% of the plugs and weighted items in the substrate. I don't think it could hold an additional 75% more.

@Greggz Yes many possibilities. Put lot in the substrate Sunday evening but only somewhat happy with it. I guess I'll get it all placed and let it grow for a while before I start moving stuff around.

My vision of this tank is not so good yet!


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@Greggz Yes many possibilities. Put lot in the substrate Sunday evening but only somewhat happy with it. I guess I'll get it all placed and let it grow for a while before I start moving stuff around.

My vision of this tank is not so good yet!
I read with interest when people have elaborate detailed plans for a planted tank. I would guess it rarely turns out that way.

In my experience, a planted tank is always a work in progress. Mine changes from week to week. Things get moved, new plants are added, and some are removed. It's always evolving.

I'm sure inspiration will come to you. And as to the plant mass, it may seem like a lot, but you have a lot of unused space yet. I'm betting we see that fill in as time goes on.

The good news is you have a lovely start, and I'm betting it only gets better.


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Can I have a big tank? I want a big tank. Yours is such a nice big tank.

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I read with interest when people have elaborate detailed plans for a planted tank. I would guess it rarely turns out that way.
Sometimes the plans work out to the letter, but then you turn on the pump or have a snail and something disastrous happens regardless of your best intentions.

The best laid plans of fish and men...

Or...

Something like that...


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May all your algae get eaten, and all your scales be slimy.


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Thank you for the interest and comments all.

Here is the 25% planted.


This is a "V" shaped area in the middle of the tank.
2 feet wide in the back to center of tank in the front.
When then fills in and has a trim or two I think I will be happy with it.

I have moved the plugs and weighted plants around 3 or 4 times to areas where I think I want them.
Not too big a hurry to push them in the sand.
They are healthy plants and pearl to some degree everyday.

Planting in BDBS is like a dream, everything stays right where I put it!
Got too used to SafeTSorb being lightweight and adjusting on the second day.

Today I dosed micros for first time.
All weekend to get NO3 to even register, just kept dumping capfuls, forgot how many grams of KNO3 I put in the bottle. It kind of seemed to match the Flourish product.
Upped the CO2 today to double the bubble rate.
pH drop, who cares maybe it will demolish any snail carry-over from plants.

Going to keep some crypts in here too.
So far no melt down since I really tried to match water parameters.

Some may have a problem with my waterflow but!
It's about 300 GPH from a spraybar in the back of tank.
Water travels across the top hits front glass goes down and to the back.
Very slow wave to the taller plants, I know it will distribute the ferts.
No micro bubbles from CO2, extra clear and clean.
Will be adding some Purigen to the corner filter this week.
It may take forever to get dark without fish but still to catch decomposed plant waste as organics.

Working on a 4th dip of some green wavy Buce that I really want to save.
It was covered in BBA along the backside that I never really saw in the previous setup.

LDD driver boards ordered today.
For those interested Steve's LED's has an 8 channel board for $12.
This tank will have 7 independent channels.
Lower lighting around the Buce and Crypts at the left end of tank.
Front right may also have a greatly reduced PAR for some others.
By the end of the weekend new canopy should be done I hope.

I am really excited and hope plant growth is up to expectations.
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Canopy Progress.


Driver boards showed up today.
Hope to complete this this evening.
As for testing PAR maybe tomorrow?
294 watts, guessing it will run @ 45% duty cycle based on PAR.

Thought a lot about fish and critters etc...
Firmly decided against fish for sure.
Once I get some more MAD money and tank has matured possibly shrimp.
Thinking maybe purchase 20 high end shrimp suitable for my water.

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I am the only one that is nuts?

Programmer of automated machinery by trade.
So I am very used to electricity, knowing full well without test equipment I know nothing.

This science project we have all embraced seems extreme at times.
Water which I feel is very much like electricity, meaning one's self is blind unless we test, measure, etc...

LED's are the new age and I am involved in that too.
PAR meter, amps, duty cycle via PWM drivers etc...

Ferts are another topic all together.
I have repurposed scales, weights, compounds and such.
Went as far as building excel sheets to calculate my "Dose" just to understand the math behind the science.

My wife thinks I'm nuts!

I guess I am one that just needs a hobby that fully activates my mind!

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Nice looking build. I love a good project, and it looks like you have some skills.

Looking forward to seeing it finished.


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I was able to complete the canopy this evening but not installed.


This will all happen as time permits though.
Plants are pearling even stuff that just has a weight attached.
Plants can make it a few more days as there is no reason for me to be stressed over it.

I believe that everything planted in the substrate is showing growth already.
Plants are getting taller by the day. Soil make a difference, maybe, I don't know yet.

Too busy with all this new tank construction going on.
My norm is twice a week to sit on a small stool and check out the growth.
Make a round for three tanks and really examine what's going on.
Maybe next week.

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Looks like you're moving right along. Everything you've got so far looks at least ten times nicer and more efficient than anything my paws have touched. Canopy looks extremely pro.

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