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So now no trimming for 5 evenings, what a mess!
All 3 tanks are starting to grow above the water's surface!

Performed some water testing over the last week or so.
Remember I don't change much water.
Several posts back I complained of no NO3 consumption, sitting around 40ppm.
PO4 addition brought the NO3 down rather quick!
Going to need to up the PO4 dosing in the macro mix very soon.

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Ok, now I am curious about something. Low PO4 resulted in now NO3 consumption? Interesting
Lately I have been dosing 5ppm+ as a weekly dose. Dosed this amount yesterday and tested today - 2ppm in the tank. Hmmmmm
As for your plants, thinking a chain saw with a sharp blade may be in order :-)


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Ok, now I am curious about something. Low PO4 resulted in now NO3 consumption? Interesting
Lately I have been dosing 5ppm+ as a weekly dose. Dosed this amount yesterday and tested today - 2ppm in the tank. Hmmmmm
As for your plants, thinking a chain saw with a sharp blade may be in order :-)
NO3 was around or close to 40ppm and PO4 was a bit less than 1ppm.
Nitrate would not budge for a week.
So I added 3-4ppm of PO4 all @ once and NO3 consumption went right back up to @ least 3ppm per day.
I've let this happen four times now before I thought I should really mention.

Going to need to modify my macro mix solution.

Machete may be my friend for this trim?
A little bit of plant death due to some shading again.
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NO3 was around or close to 40ppm and PO4 was a bit less than 1ppm.
Nitrate would not budge for a week.
So I added 3-4ppm of PO4 all @ once and NO3 consumption went right back up to @ least 3ppm per day.
I've let this happen four times now before I thought I should really mention.
MG that is very interesting.

I've always dosed relatively high levels of PO4. If I cut it back, there are always some plants that rebel a bit. Tank always does better with more.

Now wondering if cutting it back is also affecting rate of NO3 uptake?


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MG that is very interesting.

I've always dosed relatively high levels of PO4. If I cut it back, there are always some plants that rebel a bit. Tank always does better with more.

Now wondering if cutting it back is also affecting rate of NO3 uptake?
Exactly what I was thinking! PO4 runs low, Nitrate builds up, GDA gets happy - interesting


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I still make a macro solution for dosing.
Strangely over the past year I have been lowering the concentration of NO3 and increasing the PO4.
But it was never an extreme change, this one will be different!


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I still make a macro solution for dosing.
Strangely over the past year I have been lowering the concentration of NO3 and increasing the PO4.
But it was never an extreme change, this one will be different!
Well that's not surprising to me. Plants like PO4.

My NO3:PO4 ratio is currently about 2:1......a far cry from the 10:1 I have seen written about so many times.


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Well that's not surprising to me. Plants like PO4.

My NO3:PO4 ratio is currently about 2:1......a far cry from the 10:1 I have seen written about so many times.
Interesting. I never understood why K2PO4 even came in the same size container as a dry fert seeing how little is called for. In the past I've only upped it when I saw GSA or took the rare test and saw it was low. Going to try doubling the amount this week, thanks for sharing that.
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Performed some water testing over the last week or so.

Remember I don't change much water.

Several posts back I complained of no NO3 consumption, sitting around 40ppm.

PO4 addition brought the NO3 down rather quick!

Going to need to up the PO4 dosing in the macro mix very soon.



Thanks for sharing...

Have you noticed any changes in your plants or an increase in GSA as your phosphate levels reduced?


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Well that's not surprising to me. Plants like PO4.

My NO3:PO4 ratio is currently about 2:1......a far cry from the 10:1 I have seen written about so many times.
I always ran about 10:2 or 10:3

No GSA in the tank at all.

A little hair algae in the back right corner where all the debris ends up.
We will not discuss the BBA all over the slimmer, heater and spraybar!
If it's warm or plastic BBA is a magnet in my tank, but I really take no preventative measures on these items either.

I did change about 10 gallons of water today.
That's a big one for me in a day!

Big trim is happening, no salvage yard projects either, if it looks bad from shading right to the trash!

More later and maybe some pics.
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I've been busy of late not to mention being out for 2 days each week for two weeks while nursing a cold!

Two corys were lost to the surface skimmer in total.
They were so damn small and I felt terrible about it.
The C123's have a better mind set and stay away from such.
No more small panda corys!

Been trimming as needed in all 3 tanks.
Going to test my water parameters this eve, been about a month.
Twelve days since dosing, this could be interesting?

Algae is really bad on PVC items in the tank though, mostly BBA.
Green hair algae all over the cord to the surface skimmer.
Glass and plants are clean so no worries there.
Since my phosphate target has been higher maybe that is the cure?

Really need to do some water changes real soon.
Been topping off and only changing water for what goes in the trim tray.
It is working but I feel the need for a bit more is required right now.
Just a gut feeling shall we say.

Later!


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I've been busy of late not to mention being out for 2 days each week for two weeks while nursing a cold!



Two corys were lost to the surface skimmer in total.

They were so damn small and I felt terrible about it.

The C123's have a better mind set and stay away from such.

No more small panda corys!



Been trimming as needed in all 3 tanks.

Going to test my water parameters this eve, been about a month.

Twelve days since dosing, this could be interesting?



Algae is really bad on PVC items in the tank though, mostly BBA.

Green hair algae all over the cord to the surface skimmer.

Glass and plants are clean so no worries there.

Since my phosphate target has been higher maybe that is the cure?



Really need to do some water changes real soon.

Been topping off and only changing water for what goes in the trim tray.

It is working but I feel the need for a bit more is required right now.

Just a gut feeling shall we say.



Later!


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Do you still keep rotala vietnam h'ra? I just grabbed two tissue culture cups from the LFS yesterday (in a bit of rough shape, he clearance them off to me, saying if any of his customers could get it to grow I could, ha!).

If you have a picture/ any advice on this one it would be great to learn more!
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