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post #496 of 542 (permalink) Old 11-21-2019, 05:04 AM Thread Starter
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I might be pulling too plants out too hard/quickly because it turns to cloud city when I make major changes
There is an art to pulling plants from capped soil.
Depending how well certain species spread roots it can be slow @ times.


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Everything has gone really well with it and it did not cause an ammonia spike, had to actually feed the tank ammonia in order to cycle. Growth seems steady, not crazy, and the only notable effect it had was it leeched a lot of tannins for about a month or so.
Lots of tannin just means that enough of the wood/mulch was not removed.
Purigen is your friend when this happens!
Embrace the ammonia spikes, drop pH and plant heavy!

"Cycle" is something I discontinued @ least 5 years ago.
I use Poret foam as a corner filter and sterilize it every two months when I make a swap.
Very few Phish in my tank to make a difference anyway.


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If you are planting with with something like the Fluval forceps, remove the rubber tips. When planting, turn them about a half turn as you are releasing the plant, then slowly remove the forceps while still turning, so the cap fills back in.
I've heard of Fluval but for the love of God I have no idea what they make/sell???
I use some old Harbor Freight SS tweezers and a seamstress type thread cutting scissors for trimming.
All acquired before trimming utensils were available!
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Evening All:

It was a growing and watching night instead of a trim type evening!
I even took pics but they look like crap and don't things justice.
More mini-solo cups for the weekend.
I will get some better pics.

Almost have the neglected 33G emersed mess under control.
3 more species to trim and all is well!

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Always nice to have a few "growing and watching" nights. Kinda makes it worth the effort.
As always, look forward to pics :-)


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For heaven's sake leave the rest of us some solo cups to use as they were originally intended

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For heaven's sake leave the rest of us some solo cups to use as they were originally intended
If you used the large Solo cups, like you should, this would not be an issue!



Evening:
Getting reading to trim a few plants but I mentioned some pics.
About the best FTS I'm getting @ the moment.


Didiplis is looking much better, nicer top with orange seed pods all over.


Way too many reds but so be it.


Rotala magenta is no longer on strike.


Rotala bossii is new to me but almost all emersed growth is gone.


Reckon I should revive the dosing thread to include my new strategy.
The pics are weak but I'm not going to play with the phone too much.
The reds look terrible in the pics but great in the tank.

Plants:
E.diversifolia not doing much yet, it was a very poor specimen.
R.bossii may be a real keeper, wider spread than wallichii.
Lotus blossum we shall see how this does long term.
Red cross was another poor specimen but may pull through, new growth so far?
Furcata that was green/purple has already turned red on top.
S.belem was a nice specimen, I'll need to spread it out more.
Tulunadensis, hoping I can still revive this down to 6 stems.

Ammannia senegalensis is one stem in the BDBS only, it is not a happy stem.
Regardless it was only a test and I can get a handful of stems back from a local aquarist.

Should have never bought more plants but I didn't think the recovery would work out so well.

I've used no more algaecide since my last mention.
Never did the weekly dose I spoke of.
Haven't touched the glass since the last diatom filter usage weeks ago.
Haven't changed water since that time either other than a few quarts in my tray while trimming.

Eheim 350 skimmer I would recommend to anyone.
No more surface scum and a gentle flow across the front of tank.

One more 50% WC will get the 75G down to 20ppm NO3, it will happen this weekend.
33G trim down is working well but @ the bottom of the list.

Now off to filling little solo cups with soil!

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Haven't changed water since that time either other than a few quarts in my tray while trimming.
Wanna get arrested for breaking the water change law?
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Wanna get arrested for breaking the water change law?
My wife has requested that I do this too.... However, no clue how one would keep a balanced tank dosing like we do and not do WC's without algae outbreaks. LOL

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Wanna get arrested for breaking the water change law?
They tried to apprehend me before but I've been evading the authorities for years!!!


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no clue how one would keep a balanced tank dosing like we do
My 11th day dose was this eve, dosed .14ppm of Fe & 10ppm NO3
Trying to dose based on consumption vs. lard it on and rinse/repeat.
I've been know to lard it on but only if the plant uptake is there too.

Joe mentioned that may have not worked well with the inert substrate.
This could be very true but with the extreme plant improvement with soil I'll stay with the soil.

Also have a very small phish load in terms of many others here, I only feed them every fourth day.
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My wife has requested that I do this too.... However, no clue how one would keep a balanced tank dosing like we do and not do WC's without algae outbreaks. LOL
She wasn’t talking about the tank.


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She wasn’t talking about the tank.
Actually she was since we were talking about our water bill. I was talking about how the rates keep going up and with our about average 10k gallon a month water use she was telling me to stop doing a weekly water change since with RO I actually use 2x's the amount changed.

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Evening All:

Paused this eve to take some pics!
Used a 5 in 1 cell phone kit for macro, 2x telephoto, wide angle, & fish eye.
Better than my normal pics but still needs improvement.

Macrandra bunch after trimming away the bottoms.


Rotala Bossii almost seems like white tops.


Furcata from a recent purchase.
Came from BucePlant with lots of flower buds I trimmed off.
Quick turn around with colorful tops in under a week.


Myriophyllum tuberculatum that was growing out of the 33G.
Saved a few stems for the 80G to test.
When out of the water it seems like all of this myrio looks like parrot feather.


E.diversifolia & mini aromatica are both making a come back.
Lost all diversifolia to the algae and about 60 stems of mini aromatica dissolved.


Happy Thanksgiving All !!!
I have a four day weekend and some major tank work will happen.
Going to trim down the 33G and remove all plants to clean and vac the substrate.

75G will get one more 50% WC to put nitrates inline and normal dosing after that.
Well normal for me that is, all based on consumption.

Filled my 20lb CO2 tank @ work this eve.
Scared I wouldn't make it through the weekend without filling.
Once on the scale 20lbs fills quick, almost overfilled, can't imagine the noise of blowing the relief valve while in the car driving home!

Going to clean corner filter foam, reactors and plumbing this weekend on two tanks.
The Poret foam in the 80G is covered in BBA about 3/8" thick.
Guess it sucked up so much crap from the algae invasion that an extreme cleaning is in order.

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Thanksgiving turned out quite well and I'm not too overstuffed to do some trimming this eve.
Targeting the 33G since the growth is extreme.

Who can argue, James Bond 007 marathon playing in the back ground on EPIX!
Some Pennsylvania Dutch eggnog in a Solo cup and all is well!

Maybe pics later.
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So, the solo cups do have a purpose other than holding plants :-)
Four day weekend for me as well. After the honey do's are done I suspect the tanks will be next. Look forward to some more pics. Oh, curious, in your first pic of the previous post there seems to be some sort of foreign contaminant in your tank - kinda looks like a phish?


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So, the solo cups do have a purpose other than holding plants :-)

Four day weekend for me as well. After the honey do's are done I suspect the tanks will be next.

Look forward to some more pics.

Oh, curious, in your first pic of the previous post there seems to be some sort of foreign contaminant in your tank - kinda looks like a phish?
Only the"mini" cups go in the tanks!

I've not completed all of the honey do's nor have I reached my target on the tanks.

Pics:
So my cell phone pics of the tanks are poor in my opinion.
Charged DSLR batteries today and tested out some lenses.
Shooting a tank without supplementary lighting is tough.
End results are a little dark, I'll need to correct that this eve.
If edited to add a bit more light they look great.
I need to get this camera thing ironed out so that no editing is needed.
I have truly not spent the time required to make this happen, I shoot a few pics they are not so great and I post them anyway and move on to something else.
I'm not using a "Vintage" mode either!!!

I have 3 species of foreign contaminants I've had for quite some time.
Still my same inventory, 2 flame tetras, 8 harlequin rasboras, 9 cory's
Here are some C123's.


Evening All:
I think I can safely say that the recovery is complete.
Everything growing in cups is growing well, only one species is not in the cups.
S.repens has not been placed in solo cups yet.
It has adapted to the inert substrate but with some BBA and slower growth.

Ferts:
Consumption has reached an all time low since everything is in soil cups.
Today's dose was 5ppm worth of macro mix and no micros, Fe was .20ppm when measured.
1 dGH dosed with GH booster and additional 3ppm of Ca from CaSO4.
I also upped the PO4 in the macro mix, I no longer touch the glass, always clean!
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I miss the vintage pictures from @Immortal1 ...
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