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Is my macro ei solution correct?

Switching from pps-pro today over to ei and wanted to make sure the solution I mixed was accurate. I attached an image of the solution and dosing method I am planning on using.

Please let me know if you see any thing that is "wrong". I also will not be using magnesium sulfate as my gh is 10-11. I checked my water company report and it shows that the gh contains magnesium so I think I'm ok there. Could be wrong though.

Also, pps-pro has helped my plants grow very well but just not all of them and I am only making this switch out of a "let's see if this is what I was missing" sort of thang.

I know there is sooooo much info on ei dosing but for some reason I was having a hard time finding a good calculator for a premixed solution. The image is the only one that came close to me easily understanding it.

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How much water are you dosing?
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18 gallons. In the calculator you select how large the aquarium is. It is a 20long and I subtracted for substrate and plants
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This is for 18 gallons. Add the amounts below to 500ml. One dose is 5ml. The K2SO4 is optional because KNO3 usually provides enough potassium.

Macro Bottle
KNO3 83.33 gm (approximately 16 1/32 teaspoons)
KH2PO4 12.7 gm (approximately 2 1/4 teaspoons)
Optional: K2SO4 34 gm (approximately 5 1/4 teaspoons)

Micro Bottle
Plantex CSM+B 52.2 gm (approximately 12 1/8 teaspoons)

Source, My Calculator
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Ok this seems more accurate. The solution I mixed seemed light. Thanks
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Ok this seems more accurate. The solution I mixed seemed light. Thanks
That's because you were using a 35 ml dose. In fact, the doses you listed were too high lol.

Using a 35 ml dose it should have been,

KNO3 11.9 gm
KH2PO4 1.8 gm
Plantex 7.5 gm
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Lol. Switching from pps threw me off. The micro seemed so much more diluted but granted I was only dosing 2ml
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Zorfox,

The solution doesn't seem to be dissolving into the 500ml water. Almost as if it is too much salt to water. I have been shaking the bottles vigorously before each dose. Does you mix fully dissolve?

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The solution doesn't seem to be dissolving into the 500ml water. Almost as if it is too much salt to water. I have been shaking the bottles vigorously before each dose. Does you mix fully dissolve?

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Yes it does. I use warm water with 3 teaspoons of white vinegar added. Try microwaving until warm and add some vinegar. If that doesn't work recheck your doses.

If your using teaspoons the margin for error is much larger. In the end if you added too much because of this it's really not going to cause an issue.

If none of that works you can always just add another 500ml of water and dose 10ml instead of 5ml.
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Thanks for the reply. I used room temp ro water and my gram scale for measuring. Does the vinegar help break down the salts?
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Thanks for the reply. I used room temp ro water and my gram scale for measuring. Does the vinegar help break down the salts?
No. It destroys the carbonates that can lead to precipitation issues. It also prevents mold/fungus in the trace mix. Boiling will also destroy the carbonates.
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So I just noticed something in my tank and I wanted to ask you while I have your attention; it looks like I have a difficiancy in my wisteria, and I just saw a spot of black fuzzy algae and also a spot of blue/green algae on my moss. Things I have changed: I took off a secondary diy co2 reactor because the drop checker was turning yellow at the end of my lighting cycle and I was worried it would become too much during the night. It now shows a darker green. I'm assuming a 10 to 15 ppm co2 drop. And switching to ei from pps-pro.

I'm assuming the issue has more to do with the co2 change because of the algae, but could that really change so fast to cause the issue of algae and holes in my wisteria?

I do have snails in the tank. Nerite snails and what ever other basic snails that came in with the plants. They have been there since the beginning so I don't think it's them.
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