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so ill be starting my tank soon but i wanted to test my parameters out of the tap first.. This is what i got

Ph 7.4
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 0
Phosphate 0
Ammonia is in between 1.0 and 2.0
Kh is at 20 drops
Gh is at 12 drops

So first question, why is ammonia so high out of the tap. The test kit sat in my garage over the winter, could it have gone bad or is my water just whacked out?

Secondly, with the gh and kh so high.. What do i do? R/O is simply not and option i could by it from the store but i dont really want to do that. Is there a particular substrate i can use to help. How about ones to stay away fro m.. I certainly dont want to raise it.. What are some things i can do to help? And i dont want cichlids lol...


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Ammonia at low levels in drinking water is not toxic to humans, so some localities allow small amounts of ammonia to remain in the public water supply. If you use Prime, AmQuel, or any of several other water conditioners that say the remove ammonia as well, you should be fine. There are some that do not remove ammonia, particularly the ones that say "natural water conditioner" so I would avoid them in your case. If you just leave the ammonia at that level you will have to do more frequent water changes to avoid harming your fish, which I would not recommend. Good luck!
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more frequent water changes with ammonia already in the water will only serve to keep putting it in the tank. The plants and bacteria will quickly absorb the trace amounts of ammonia in your tap. I wouldn't worry about it too much, but if it's too much you could always use Prime with your water changes as stated before.


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This is actually a well not city water so im screwed it that aspect, ill buy some prime however. How about the gh and kh issues?


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surface water getting into your well? Near animal housing?
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No animal housing at all. Surface water is possible but seems unlikely because of depth but i dont know. Its a newly drilled well, drilled just this past october at a depth of 200 feet.


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Unless you're planning on keeping discus or something, the gH and kH shouldn't be a problem. My tap water is basically liquid rock.
dGH: 31 (550ppm)
dKH: 24 (420ppm)
pH: 8.3

I keep some tetras, barbs, Rams and cories in it with no problem whatsoever.

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wow.. that's pretty high... i've been trouble finding ram's.. where are you getting yours from. most LFS's around here won't even keep them because of the gh/kh factor here in indianapolis


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wow.. that's pretty high... i've been trouble finding ram's.. where are you getting yours from. most LFS's around here won't even keep them because of the gh/kh factor here in indianapolis
I've seen some occasionally at Uncle Bill's, but they're few and far between. If any LFS would have rams, it would be the Reef down on Keystone.
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I was actually there yesterday. They didn't have any on hand and she said (didn't catch her name) that they only carry about 5 at a time. So ill probably get some from there, only thing that i'd be worried about is the acclimation from their r/o that they keep them in to my liquid rock with ammonia mix. Lol


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wow.. that's pretty high... i've been trouble finding ram's.. where are you getting yours from. most LFS's around here won't even keep them because of the gh/kh factor here in indianapolis
I actually got mine from a friend who used to breed them. I have no idea where he got his. I work at a LFS and we carry the Bolivian Rams or Crown Ruby Cichlids, but very rarely do we get German Blues or any other kind

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