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the problem with ten gallon tanks

2 Oto's died over night causing an amonia spike killing off 5 of my RCS does anyone online sell good Oto's ? so I dont have to get them from the local chain store

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and I cant find my reciept to take them back for credit

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Chain store, eh? If it's Petco, they'll usually take it back anyway. Depends on the manager...you can always call ahead to find out. You'll probably at least need the bodies, though. I can't speak for Petsmart, though.
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Oto's can be very sensitive to new conditions. Not much can be done about that other than quarentine and that only reduces the likelyhood, not eliminate it.

Your other issue is that a 10 on tank has little water to dilute ammonia or anything to a non-toxic level.
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Help a noob out please.

what is an 'Oto"?

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dang , now I cant find the bodies ,, my son dumped the water out in the grass , oh well ..

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I dont know why I thought I could try oto's again , I have never managed to acclimate and keep any alive more than a week or 2

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that sucks Suebe333. I love those little guys. One of the few fish that's fast enough to stay out of harms way and never seems to mess with any of my other fish. (unless they're trying to encroach on the algae wafer territory.


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i have found that the trick with otos is getting them to eat as much as possible when you first get them. Try algae tabs and lots of blanched zucchini/cucumber. Once they get acclimated, they are awesome. Don't give up on them!


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i have found that the trick with otos is getting them to eat as much as possible when you first get them. Try algae tabs and lots of blanched zucchini/cucumber. Once they get acclimated, they are awesome. Don't give up on them!
I did ,, I was just telling my daughter last night < as we sat watching them , see dear , when thier little tummies are nice and round they are ok the last one seems ok , I put him in my other planted tank just in case though ,, I really dont want to lose anymore of my shrimpies CRY

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Thanks, I have had those in the past...

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Some tips for increasing survival rates of newly purchased otos that I find work for me.

(1) Resist the temptation to buy otos that have not been in the LFS tank for at least two months. The ones that are the weakest, ill, and most stressed out will usually kick the bucket in the the first month or so, leaving the hardiest of the bunch.

(2) Choose the fattest otos you can find. A pot bellied oto(within reason, you don't want one with dropsy), means that it is well fed and eating, so more likely to survive.

(3) Never put these guys in an uncyled tank, this should be common knowlege when popuating tanks with most fish. Otos are especially sensitive to ammonia and nitrite spikes.

(4) Drip acclimitize them for at least an hour, preferrably two hours. Yeah, I know this sounds drastic and extreme, but IME, it is one of the most effective ways of increasing survival rates for otocats, and pretty much any other fish.
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Best way to keep them is wait until the tank is very established...several months at least. Sorry for your loss. They can come in with IP's, so Homer's #1 suggestion is solid advice.
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Some tips for increasing survival rates of newly purchased otos that I find work for me.

(1) Resist the temptation to buy otos that have not been in the LFS tank for at least two months. The ones that are the weakest, ill, and most stressed out will usually kick the bucket in the the first month or so, leaving the hardiest of the bunch.

(2) Choose the fattest otos you can find. A pot bellied oto(within reason, you don't want one with dropsy), means that it is well fed and eating, so more likely to survive.

(3) Never put these guys in an uncyled tank, this should be common knowlege when popuating tanks with most fish. Otos are especially sensitive to ammonia and nitrite spikes.

(4) Drip acclimitize them for at least an hour, preferrably two hours. Yeah, I know this sounds drastic and extreme, but IME, it is one of the most effective ways of increasing survival rates for otocats, and pretty much any other fish.
Excellent advice.

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