Ei fertilizer mixture 1000ml help - The Planted Tank Forum
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-23-2015, 01:28 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: CePA
Posts: 23
Ei fertilizer mixture 1000ml help

Hello everyone! I've been browsing this forum for about 6 months now, ive been reading and getting a lot of good information. I've been dosing my tanks ei daily mixing single batches every morning, so I finally pulled the trigger and bought 3x 1000mL bottles from gla. I've mixed my batches this Saturday and dosed my macros (there was some un dissolved salts on the bottom of the container) Sunday I dosed my microplex and 11% DTPA FE. Today in the morning I went to add my macro and when I shook the container there was a thin layer of one if the salts that broke free from the bottle, I think I somehow messed up my measurements when I did the mix. I wanted to see if someone could help me out and look over my calculations. Thanks in advance!

Macro: 1000mL container, 15mL dose into 20long
*KNO3 - 61.72g
*K2SO4 - 84.35g
*KH2PO4 - 9.4g
*40mL glutaraldehyde 2.6%
*-960+ mL di water

Micro: 1000mL container, 15mL dose into 20long
*Miller Microplex - 63.09g
*60 mL glutaraldehyde 2.6%
*-940+ mL di water
(I know there is about 163% Cu but I don't have any sensitive fish there)

Iron supplement 1000mL container, 15mL dose into 20long
*DTPA Fe 11% - 22.94g
*60mL glutaraldehyde 2.6%
*-940+ mL di water
( I think I'm way overdosing on iron )


Here are the specs of my 6 months old tank:
20long
Dual t5ho 8hrs photo period
Pressurized co2 42ppm (kh7 , ph 6.7)
MGOPS with sand cap
Osmocote+ root tabs


Last edited by Rusky04; 03-23-2015 at 01:44 PM. Reason: Added more info
Rusky04 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-23-2015, 06:50 PM
Planted Tank Guru
 
PTrader: (538/100%)
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 3,009
You are adding too much k2so4, add 25g of k2so4 instead. With that change you will be getting roughly 7.5ppm potassium in each dose which is the suggest amount for ei dosing.

The reason for this is because there is a lot of potassium in kno3 and kh2po4 so you have to take that into account.
nilocg is offline  
post #3 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-23-2015, 09:16 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: CePA
Posts: 23
Nilocg, thanks for the reply, should i just mix a new batch, or finish using the current batch?
Rusky04 is offline  
 
post #4 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-23-2015, 09:44 PM
Planted Tank Guru
 
PTrader: (538/100%)
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 3,009
Hard to say, it will probably be fine the way you have it but I cant say for sure.
nilocg is offline  
post #5 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-24-2015, 08:52 AM
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
lee739's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Australia
Posts: 532
If my tank looked like yours I'd be reluctant to change much!
lee739 is offline  
post #6 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-24-2015, 08:10 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: CePA
Posts: 23
Thanks Lee739! I just need to figure this mixture out, as I have other thanks that I dose with ei and it takes some of morning to do so, this would save me a lot of time.

This is one of my other tanks, it was started December of last year


Last edited by Darkblade48; 03-25-2015 at 09:19 AM. Reason: Back to back posts
Rusky04 is offline  
post #7 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-24-2015, 09:55 PM
Planted Tank Enthusiast
 
lee739's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Australia
Posts: 532
Fantastic work - you're profile title 'newbie' is misplaced!
lee739 is offline  
post #8 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-26-2015, 12:52 AM
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (1/100%)
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusky04 View Post
Nilocg, thanks for the reply, should i just mix a new batch, or finish using the current batch?
Why not mix a new batch? For the cost of a couple of teaspoons of ferts.

Your tank already looks nice...
aubtruck2 is offline  
post #9 of 17 (permalink) Old 04-05-2015, 04:12 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: CePA
Posts: 23
Ok so I made a new batch of macro solution, I completely ditched K2SO4 and added MgPO4.7H2O
Since the switch I noticed better growth in most of the plants in my experimental tank that I setup on March 5. Here is my current mix

Macro solution - 1000mL @ 30mL dose
KNO3 - 30.86gr
KH2PO4 - 4.70gr
MgSO4.7H2O - 127.95gr

Element Ppm/degrees
K. - 4.73
N. - 1.69
NO3. - 7.50


Element Ppm/degrees
K. - 0.54
P. - 0.42
PO4.- 1.30


Element Ppm/degrees
Mg. - 5.00
S. - 6.60
dGH. - 0.28


Micro solution - 1000mL @ 15mL dose
Miller Microplex - 63.09gr

Element Ppm/degrees
B. - 0.06
Co. - 0.01
Cu. - 0.19
Fe. - 0.50
Mg. - 0.68
Mn. - 0.50
Mo. - 0.01
Zn. - 0.17
dGH. - 0.16


Iron supliment - 1000mL @ 15mL dose
(Sunday and Thursday only)
DTPA Fe 11% - 22.94gr

Element Ppm/degrees
Fe. - 0.50


Experimental tank specs and flora:

20long
*Beamsworks .50 watt led 8hr photoperiod
*Pressurized CO2 30ppm
*Glutaraldehyde 2.5% 6mL daily
*Floramax substrate
*Osmocote+ root tabs

Flora

*Labellia Cardinalis (tissue cultured)

*Ludwigia Repens (at least sold as L.repens which I have doubts)

*Pogostemon Helferi (tissue cultured)

* Tiger Lotus petite
( planted as a seed from another tank March 5th)

*Alternanthera Reinekii (tissue cultured) added March 21

*Cryptocoryne Wendtii var bronze

*S.repens

*Limnophila Aromatica (1stem)

*Brazilian penny wort
added only 1 rooted leaf)

*Blyxa Japonica

*Rotala Rotundifolia
added April 2

*Anubias Nana var petite (tissue cultured)

Last edited by Rusky04; 04-05-2015 at 04:19 PM.
Rusky04 is offline  
post #10 of 17 (permalink) Old 04-11-2015, 07:11 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: CePA
Posts: 23
I guess I'll leave this here too, all of my blyxa japonica started to flower about 2 weeks ago. Seems like submersed the flowers don't last long, so I floated one of the flowering plants.




Rusky04 is offline  
post #11 of 17 (permalink) Old 04-23-2015, 05:19 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: CePA
Posts: 23
Here is a quick video I took of my experimental tank. Sorry for phone quality video. This tank was started March 5th, I've been tweaking the EI solution weekly. Let me know what you guys think.

http://youtu.be/2IZO_y9ixPQ
Rusky04 is offline  
post #12 of 17 (permalink) Old 04-23-2015, 05:27 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: CePA
Posts: 23
20long
Beamsworks .50 watt led 8hr photoperiod
Pressurized CO2 30ppm
Glutaraldehyde 2.5% 6mL daily
Floramax substrate
Osmocote+ root tabs

Flora

*Labellia Cardinalis (tissue cultured) (front left)

*Ludwigia Repens (at least sold as L.repens which I have doubts) (Rear left)

*Pogostemon Helferi (tissue cultured) (center front)

* Tiger Lotus petite (center front) ( planted as a seed from another tank March 5th)

*Alternanthera Reinekii (tissue cultured) (center middle) added March 21

*Cryptocoryne Wendtii var bronze (center
middle)

*S.repens (center right 3 plants, center left 1 plant)

*Limnophila Aromatica (1stem) (center left)

*Brazilian penny wort (grows horizontally, added from one of my other tanks, added only 1 rooted leaf)

*Blyxa Japonica (right front, right center)

*Rotala Rotundifolia (tissue cultured) (right rear) added April 2

*Anubias Nana var petite (tissue cultured) right front, centre rear


March 5th day 1
(Macro - KNO3, KH2PO4, K2SO4 --- Micro - CSM+B)




March 21
(Macro - KNO3, KH2PO4, K2SO4 --- Micro - Millers Microplex --- DTPA Fe 11% (Sunday and Thursday only))




March 28
(Macro - KNO3, KH2PO4, MgSO4.7H2O --- Micro - Millers Microplex ---- DTPA Fe 11% (Sunday and Thursday only)
[URL=http://s964.photobucket.com/user/rusky04/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DE3F318A-FD4E-44B0-93F8-D9BBA042EA58_zpsccjaai22.jpg.html][/URL


April 3
Macro - KNO3, KH2PO4, MgSO4.7H2O --- Micro - Millers Microplex ---- DTPA Fe 11% (Sunday and Thursday only)



April 11
(Macro - KNO3, KH2PO4, MgSO4.7H2O --- Micro - Millers Microplex ---- DTPA Fe 11% (Sunday, Tuesday , Thursday)



April 18
(Macro - KNO3, KH2PO4, MgSO4.7H2O --- Micro - Millers Microplex ---- DTPA Fe 11% (Sunday, Tuesday , Thursday)
Rusky04 is offline  
post #13 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-09-2015, 04:10 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: CePA
Posts: 23
Quick update on 2 tanks






Last edited by Rusky04; 05-13-2015 at 06:08 PM.
Rusky04 is offline  
post #14 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-09-2015, 05:33 PM
kep
Planted Tank Obsessed
 
kep's Avatar
 
PTrader: (8/100%)
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 432
Wow! Your tanks are looking fantastic!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
kep is offline  
post #15 of 17 (permalink) Old 05-13-2015, 06:09 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: CePA
Posts: 23
Thank you for the kind words.
Rusky04 is offline  
Reply

Tags
None

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Planted Tank Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome