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Tank still cloudy after six weeks...

I set a new plant tank six weeks ago. I added fish and lots of stem plants within a few days of initial set up. I also used 3-4 inches of eco complete. The bio load has been light throughout my attempt to cycle this tank.

The water seems to have a constant bacteria bloom. It's not green, it's white/cloudy.
It's not terrible, but it's not like my other tanks that have crystal clear water. It's been over three weeks now of cloudy water. My only thought is that the heavy plant mass and water changes from the EI dosing method is slowing down the cycle process or causing the tank to cycle over again after each major water change.

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have you tested your nitrate, ammonia, etc?


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have you tested your nitrate, ammonia, etc?
I have and everything is testing normal. Furthermore, I've had one Microgeophagus Ramirezi (Ram cichlid) and six Rummynose in the tank for 5 of the 6 weeks. I keep and breed Microgeophagus Ramirezi, although I'm still working on raising the fry. Anyway, this fish will not tolerate unfavorable water conditions. That's another indictor that my water perimeters are acceptable. This is very puzzling.

Also, I have not disturbed the substrate, uprooted a plant, etc. for over two weeks. When I make a major water changes (via EI method), my water is clear, but by the next morning, it is cloudy again. That has to be a bacteria bloom. I just cannot believe how long it's tanking to clear up. It's driving me nuts.

I know carbon is frowned up in planted tanks, but I added some to HOB filter last night and plan to run it for 24 hours. I checked the tank this morning, and the water is still cloudy. It doesn't appear that the carbon is making any difference.
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I had a 20H setup last spring that took 10 weeks to cycle. Not sure why but I couldn't stand that tank after awhile. Plants did fine fish and shrimp didn't last.

I setup my tank with Aquasoil in december and had it cycled in less than 3 weeks but I didn't do a single waterchange until the day before I added my CRS.

I know there were some problems with some eco complete raising gh or kh.

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I have and everything is testing normal. Furthermore, I've had one Microgeophagus Ramirezi (Ram cichlid) and six Rummynose in the tank for 5 of the 6 weeks. I keep and breed Microgeophagus Ramirezi, although I'm still working on raising the fry. Anyway, this fish will not tolerate unfavorable water conditions. That's another indictor that my water perimeters are acceptable. This is very puzzling.

Also, I have not disturbed the substrate, uprooted a plant, etc. for over two weeks. When I make a major water changes (via EI method), my water is clear, but by the next morning, it is cloudy again. That has to be a bacteria bloom. I just cannot believe how long it's tanking to clear up. It's driving me nuts.

I know carbon is frowned up in planted tanks, but I added some to HOB filter last night and plan to run it for 24 hours. I checked the tank this morning, and the water is still cloudy. It doesn't appear that the carbon is making any difference.

that is certianly a puzzeler, how much lighting are you using? might you also be running to high on your EI dosing?

have you run your ammonia tests first thing in the AM?

As to the carbon, never heard of any issues with carbon and Plants, Carbon and medications yes, but not with plants.
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what is a major water change? how much are we talking 50%?


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what is a major water change? how much are we talking 50%?
Yes, dosing EI method calls for 50% water changes.
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I thought of another possible cause for the slow cycle/cloudy water. The good bacteria (Nitrococcus) needs a good supply of O2 to grow and survive. My tank has a constant surface scum and little surface disruption (so the CO2) does not leave the water.

I wonder is if this is counterproductive when trying to grow the a good base of Nitrococcus? It seems like it could be.

Any thoughts?

By the way, the water is still cloudy (not green) today. I have no fish problems and my Amano shirmp are doing well. The water perimeters measure correctly. I feel like changing 70-80% of my water to see what happens, but I'm worried about the livestock with changing that much water at once.
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My tank looks like the one in this thread. The situation is similar.

https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/ge...water-fog.html
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I had the same issue...

When I started my 75Gal, It looked like that for about a month or so. I was afraid to add fertz cause I thought it was the "pea soup" algae. I convinced myself that it was a bacteria bloom and started to add fertz. I was right, when I added fertz, it went from that milky white color to green... I borrowed a diatom filter and it fixed the problem. Then a month later the water turned milky white again, so I just borrowed the diatom filter once more. I haven't had problems since.

I hope this helps some
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I pulled out my old Magnum 350 today from the crawlspace. I used the diatom filter and powder that came with it (I never used the diatom function before). Anyway, the tank cleared up a good deal, but once the lights kicked on for a few hours, I swear it started to get cloudy again.

Could I have a floating algae issue without having green water? My water is not green. I poured some in a white paper cup and the water is colorless.
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