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Soap-like bubbles in tank?? Help.

I have a 1.5 gallon desk tank with an anubia, some java moss, and some snails. Until yesterday, I had a sparkling gourami. He suddenly started listing around on the bottom. I did a major water change and he perked up slightly for a short time and then died. I took him out and now it's just the snails for livestock. This morning, I come in and my tank is filled with bubbles and bubbles are just rolling out of the filter. ??? It's a low-tech tank. I used Aqua Safe in the water yesterday - which I don't normally use on my tanks at home, but doubt it would cause this. I was planning on restocking the tank with shrimp, but now I'm concerned about the water quality. Is this a sign of anything?? How worried should I be? I don't have any test kits or anything here.
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It sure does look like soap bubbles to me.... do a major water change, and do it quickly!
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did you wash your hands before cleaning the tank? there may have been some soap left on your hands or something.

Also, if you have used any medicine in this tank for the gourami, the filter does that sometimes. I have a few sick fish that i'm treating in a 10g and after i put in the meds for them, my filter bubbles a little bit for a few hours. (not quite to that extent, but it looks kind of like that.)

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I suspect the foam is protein and aloe. Do a water change using only a declorinetor and skip the Aqua Safe. Pull the water from the top as best you can to remove the surface layer.
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Don't gourami's make bubble nests?


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once (many a year ago) i left my fish net next to the kitchen sink for about 30 minutes. i dipped it in the tank again and the next morning everything was dead and i had major soap bubbles. be careful where you leave your tools. its not just the hands that can carry soap.

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Don't gourami's make bubble nests?
Yeah, but they look NOTHING like that!
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I suspect the foam is protein and aloe. Do a water change using only a declorinetor and skip the Aqua Safe. Pull the water from the top as best you can to remove the surface layer.
I'm thinking that this is most likely answer at this point. I don't have anything other Aqua Safe here, but I've done an almost complete water change (using Aqua Safe again) and the bubbles have returned. I've got Prime at home for my other tanks, I guess I will have to bring it in. It's such a small tank though, it's really hard to measure out the appropriate amount of water treatment. Could I just use bottled water to top it off? That wouldn't need de-chlorinated, right? I pretty much just replace the evaporation water on this tank, so it's not like I'm using a lot of water.
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i once had lots of bubbles in my tank after a quick look i realised that they were coming from my air stone.
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Skip the Aqua Safe and Stess Coat type products - for this tank. Even Prime will create problems for you as the dosage is 1 ml for 10 gallons. That works out to what? about a third of a drop for a water change on a 1.5 gallon tank.

For the size of that tank I'd use bottled RO water to top it off as needed. You won't alter the mineral content of the water. Standard bottled water from your local comes from tap water in most cases and may contain traces of chlorine.
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I'm thinking that this is most likely answer at this point. I don't have anything other Aqua Safe here, but I've done an almost complete water change (using Aqua Safe again) and the bubbles have returned. I've got Prime at home for my other tanks, I guess I will have to bring it in. It's such a small tank though, it's really hard to measure out the appropriate amount of water treatment. Could I just use bottled water to top it off? That wouldn't need de-chlorinated, right? I pretty much just replace the evaporation water on this tank, so it's not like I'm using a lot of water.
Is this the tetra filter that hooks up to an air pump? I use Aqua Safe a lot with this filter and I always get these bubbles a lot afterward. It goes away, or you can push the filter in the water a little further to decrease the bubbles, but occasionally, you will see a bigger bubble surface. I also see this with stress coat, so I am also suspecting aloe. I have been doing this over six months and my betta at work is happy.

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It's such a small tank though, it's really hard to measure out the appropriate amount of water treatment.
The 50ml bottle of Prime has a drop-size opening under the flip-cap, it's ideal for situations such as this; the instructions indicate two drops per gallon.

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Just a thought for measuring out small amounts
I bought a couple of syringes from a pharmacist. Not the ones with the needle on the end, but the ones used for measuring childrens medicine. Over here they come in 5ml and 1ml sizes. The 1ml ones have measurements of 0.1, 0.2, 0.3 etc and even have marks between them to indicate 0.01 mls. Works for me

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Is this the tetra filter that hooks up to an air pump? I use Aqua Safe a lot with this filter and I always get these bubbles a lot afterward. It goes away, or you can push the filter in the water a little further to decrease the bubbles, but occasionally, you will see a bigger bubble surface. I also see this with stress coat, so I am also suspecting aloe. I have been doing this over six months and my betta at work is happy.
That's what it was, yes. I just pulled out that filter today though and put my old sponge filter back in - along with a few red cherry shrimp. It's still all bubbly, but I'm less concerned about it being deadly or something now. Once I have a chance this weekend, I'll try to get to the fish store and buy a small bottle of Prime. I only have one big bottle at home, so I don't really want to bring that in.
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You could use the big bottle, but dose the Prime with an oral syringe.


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