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10gal - dry dosing

I have read through a lot of dosing posts and guides but some seam to contradict the others. I just got my dry ferts and need to start a dosing schedule. My test kit hasn't arrived yet so don't know the gh/kh...

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10 gal
36 watt cf
pressurized Co2 (1bps - going to lower it until dosing ferts do to algae)
moderately planted w/few fish

Before Co2 - BGA very slow growth
after Co2 - BGA quicker growth and hair algae started growing

Found this calculator:
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua/art_plant_aquacalc.htm
but can't install on this computer due to firewall limitations...

I just need a good starting point to dose dry ferts + plantex
I'll keep looking around for info, but any help is appreciated.
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Hi

Here are three different "tweaks" of EI dosing.


https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/wa...-regimes_.html
10~20gal
50% H20 change-weekly
1/8 Tsp-KN03 3x a week
1/32 Tsp-KH2P04 3x aweek
1/4 Tsp-GH booster once a week
2.5 ml or 1/32 Tsp-Trace 3x a week
Optional
0.5 - 1 ml-Fe/Iron 3x a week


http://www.barrreport.com/estimative...chy-folks.html
10- 20 Gallon Aquariums
+/- 1/8 tsp KNO3 (N) 3x a week
+/- 1/32 tsp KH2PO4 (P) 3x a week
+/- 1/4 tsp GH booster once a week(water change only)
+/- 1/32 tsp (2ml) Trace Elements 3x a week
50% weekly water change


http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/f...ing-guide.html
10- 20 Gallon Aquariums
+/- 1/8 tsp KN03 (N) 3x a week
+/- 1/32 tsp KH2P04 (P) 3x a week
+/- 1/32 tsp (2ml) Trace Elements 3x a week
50% weekly water change



*** NOTE: When EI was introduced, it was suggested that you dose K2SO4 at the same amount and time as KH2PO4. Many people found that it wasn't needed because enough K was being supplied by KNO3.

EXAMPLE




A little later on, it was found that some people were missing some Mg, Ca and Mn in their tap water. It was suggested to add a little (about 2 or 3 dGH) GH Booster or Seachem's Equilibrium once a week.



Here are two calculators that should work for you:
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua/art_p...osage_calc.htm
http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/f...fertilator.php



I got my 1/8, 1/16, 1/32 (dash, pinch, smidgen) teaspons at Bed, Bath and Beyond.



I hope this helps you.
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You may want to try PPS for such a small tank. PPS is great! and it saves you time and precious water.
http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/f...tic-plant.html

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Thanks C and Orlando.
I have to look into that PPS as this is the first I'm hearing about it. Only saw the EI.
After skimming through that link REALLY quickly, noticed a section for dosage without water changes. Does that mean this method you do not need the typical 50% weekly water change? This tank is at work and I try to do as few water changes as possible so the boss doesn't tell me to take it home...
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I think with pps pro its not required to do weekly water changes. APC has a good write up on it. Sorry I haven't tried it so I can't give any first hand experience.

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I really like PPS-Pro dosing. I make my own solutions of liquid ferts and dose daily and only do water changes once a month at most. The nice thing about PPS is you really get a good feel of what may be limited in your tank and then make your adjustment accordingly.

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I've been running around all night trying to get all my shopping done so haven't had any time to read into it yet...

With PPS-Pro dosing, do you have to mix solutions or can you dose dry ferts?

Reason I'm asking is I will be out of work a couple weeks and I was thinking of getting a automatic feeder with separate compartments for each day and use that for my fertilizer instead...
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You want to mix them with PPS into solutions.

If you leave town just stop dosing and lean up on ferts and light a couple of days before you leave and you should be fine.

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Finally got a chance to look into that, as long as I can keep the CSM+B from growing mold, that is the way I will go...

How long does it take for the CSM+B to get moldy? If its a couple weeks, I could just make a large batch keep in fridge and fill a very small container for a week or two worth and just refill when needed.
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How much extra KH2PO4 do you add to your macro solution to combat GSA when using PPS-Pro or is there another solution. There are many posts about getting GSA while using PPS-Pro. I got it too.

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I use Griseofulvin. It works great at keeping fungus at bay with premix csm+b.

The good thing about PPS is that you are in more control of what going on.

Example: GSA> dose more kh2po4...

Also, you save tons of water by not having to waste 50% water every week. I know I could save a little money by limiting my water changes.
Lastly, your dry ferts will last you soooo much longer with PPS. PPS works great.

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I keep mine in the fridge
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Orlando, do you keep your ferts refrigerated? If not does your csm+b solution grow mold or how long until it does and how to stop it from getting moldy?
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I keep my CSM+B in the fridge, but I also use Griseofulvin to keep mold/fungus at bay

I noticed that if you store your csm in the ice box you dont need Griseofulvin..

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I did a quick search and noticed it is an anti-fungal. Where do you get it, and how much do you mix into your csm+b solution? ex: 10ml into 500ml csm+b mix...
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Hi Orlando

Are you using PPS-Classic or PPS-Pro? Or both?

Your comments about these two separate dosing regimens are interwoven.

FROM: http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/f...ad.php?t=38781
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We have developed two PPS systems to fit any aquarium and personal preferences.


PPS-Classic
This system runs aquariums indefinitely without water changes. It requires weekly to monthly testing. Water changes are optional.

PPS-Pro, (most recent system)
This is the easiest system ever. There is no testing required and water changes are optional.





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