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ferts in lowish light tank.

I am new to dry dosing and dosing in general. So I wanted to run some concerns by u guys.


- I read Tom Barr report on dry dosing on low tech tanks and he suggested this for a 20 gallon once a week;
o 1/4 teaspoon of SeaChem Equlibrium
o 1/8 teaspoon of KNO3
o 1/32 teaspoon of KH2PO4

- Since my tank is 60 gallons I will do;
o 3/4 teaspoon of SeaChem Equlibrium
o 3/8 teaspoon of KNO3
o 3/32 teaspoon of KH2PO4


What do u guys think of that? Do I need anything else?


My two other concerns are


- What’s the best way to get the dry fert in the tank? Do I water it down first? Would it be ok if I make enough for 4 weeks and put it in like a water bottle? Idk



- And last where is the best place to buy some ferts?

My tank is 60 gallons and the dimensions are 48w x 13d x 24h. Home Depot 2 bulb Diamond Plate Shop Light
MGOCPM and red clay capped with Eco Complete

The plants I have in it:
Anubias nana
Moneywort
Java fern
Dwarf Onion
Cryptocoryne retrospiralis
Amazon Sword
Dwarf Sag
Red/Roundleaf Ludwigia
Jungle Val
some kind of crypt.


Thanks!

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Dry fert, online buying, mix enough with water to just make a solution, iron and potassium is the main key for root feeders, ferns and moss's use water supplied nutrition, and check into the co2 best help i can give at the moment with out knowing more
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I guess Nilocg isn't allowed to market in threads but you can get it from him/her. Go to the sale thread and you will see what's to offer. I have yet to purchase fertilizers outside of Seachem's line but once I get my project underway, I will be buying from Nilocg as well. If I am not mistaking, the prices are some of the best around. I have only seen good comments in thread in regards to Nilocg's products.

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I guess Nilocg isn't allowed to market in threads but you can get it from him/her. Go to the sale thread and you will see what's to offer. I have yet to purchase fertilizers outside of Seachem's line but once I get my project underway, I will be buying from Nilocg as well. If I am not mistaking, the prices are some of the best around. I have only seen good comments in thread in regards to Nilocg's products.
I am actually talking to him/her right now. but i still dont know what kind of ferts i need.
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If you are using tap water you likely don't need a GH booster.
KNO3
K2SO4...on some fert list as "optional" but can be substituted for the KNO3
if you have a high bio-load tank which has high nitrates towards the time for a water change...
KH2PO4...you will use less of this than the rest so a smaller quantity is needed. If you are not getting a "package" type deal then 1/2 Lb compared to a full Lb for the others.
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The main ingredient for GH boosters...
MGSO4...Epsome salt/Walmart pharmacy dept $.95
CaSO4...was told by Diana to use these at 1/4 ratio.
Optional if you think you need it.
Iron Chelate 10% DTPA- CSM+B contains some already
No doubt some on here may role their eyes at this but I dump my ferts into my filter before I turn it back on just after the water change except for the KH2PO4 which I do the next day.

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If you are using tap water you likely don't need a GH booster.
KNO3
K2SO4...on some fert list as "optional" but can be substituted for the KNO3
if you have a high bio-load tank which has high nitrates towards the time for a water change...
KH2PO4...you will use less of this than the rest so a smaller quantity is needed. If you are not getting a "package" type deal then 1/2 Lb compared to a full Lb for the others.
Plantex CSM+B
The main ingredient for GH boosters...
MGSO4...Epsome salt/Walmart pharmacy dept $.95
CaSO4...was told by Diana to use these at 1/4 ratio.
Optional if you think you need it.
Iron Chelate 10% DTPA- CSM+B contains some already
No doubt some on here may role their eyes at this but I dump my ferts into my filter before I turn it back on just after the water change except for the KH2PO4 which I do the next day.
I do use the tap. Why does that effect GH booster?
Here is what i am getting.. what do u think of it?

NPK + CSM+B with GH booster - $26 Shipped
2lb KNO3, 1/2lb KH2PO4, 1lb GH booster, and 1/2lb CSM+B

I am still new to all this so any advice would be great.

If u dont mind me asking why do u put it in your filter?
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In tap water the GH may already be high enough. Check before using the GH booster.
You may want to ad a LB of K2PO4. IF you have a lot of fish and get higher nitrates when you test just before the water change, this is used instead of KNO3 in equal amounts because in the KNO3, the NO3 adds nitrates.
You will want to have some, but with lots of fish it's already there from
their waste breaking down, that making more than normal ammonia and the bio-filter turning that into nitrates.
If you feel that you won't have that many fish you can skip it till it becomes obvious that you need it.
My filter is built in and has no pads/screens but only does bio filtering.
I just put it in there to mix it faster from the current going through.
That's a good price shipped...I may get that when I run out of what I have.

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In tap water the GH may already be high enough. Check before using the GH booster.
You may want to ad a LB of K2PO4. IF you have a lot of fish and get higher nitrates when you test just before the water change, this is used instead of KNO3 in equal amounts because in the KNO3, the NO3 adds nitrates.
You will want to have some, but with lots of fish it's already there from
their waste breaking down, that making more than normal ammonia and the bio-filter turning that into nitrates.
If you feel that you won't have that many fish you can skip it till it becomes obvious that you need it.
My filter is built in and has no pads/screens but only does bio filtering.
I just put it in there to mix it faster from the current going through.
That's a good price shipped...I may get that when I run out of what I have.
Ok thank you. Ya plus the guy seems pretty cool. here is his link to his page
https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...098&highlight=
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I've bought from him before/w good results.
No sense in going outside the forum when good prices can be had inside of it.

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