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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 10-27-2014, 03:34 AM Thread Starter
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What is the effect of csm+b mold on tank water ?

I understand this will not be a new question and i did read a lot on this before concluding i have to ask about specifically what i want to know about csm+b and mold developing in it..

On almost all the places it is mentioned:

* csm+b solution can develop mold

* refrigerating it only slows down the process but even in that mold does form

* and to add flourish or hcl in the solution

I always see some gooey substance developing and floating in my csm+b solution. . I don't have flourish and i am scared to add hcl in it if i assume that is hydrochloric acid until i learn it pretty well. .

So my question is :

1. what are the effects on tank water of adding csm+b solution which has mold ?

2. Mold means algae / bacteria / fungus / or ?

3. Adding flourish or flourish excel ? How much ?

4. "plantex csm+b" is same "plantex csm+b" everywhere or mine could be different from yours ? Are there varieties of it to be aware of which could mean mine is not the right kind of csm+b actually ?


PLEASE let me know. .

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I also get long gooey strands in the Micros.
I do not get it when I add Excel to the mix.
Does not matter how much Excel, but if you add a lot, then that could count as your Excel dose for that day (That is how much I add- enough so I do not have to dose it separately).

I think it is a fungus. It does no harm to the tank, but I use an eyedropper sort of thing to measure it, and the goo is thick enough to cause problems with that.
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Thanks diana for the help. .

Just to confirm. . Excel means "seachem flourish excel" right ? I read somewhere to add 10 ml of excel in 500 ml of csmb solution to prevent mold in csmb solution . . is that alright ?

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Okay i discarded the CSM+B solution which had mold developed..

made new CSM+B solution with Seachem Flourish Excel added.. hope this will keep the solution mold free.. will let know the progress..

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Aside from adding Excel I also do not dechlorinate the water that I add to my mix and it holds up for months or even after I finish a whole bottle. The minute amount of Chlorine does not hurt anything considering I only add 10 ml every other day. But depending on your water quality, you might want to use distilled water to make sure its clean and wont induce any mold/fungus to begin with. Plus make sure you bottle is clean too. Lastly, mix as little as you can, I mix in an old 250 ml Excel bottle, you might consider mixing less if it continues to mold up on you so you use up what you have right away. Hope this helps.
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This is one of the reasons why I just mix everything real quick before I dose vs. making a stock solution that lasts a while.
Something to consider if you are worried about your solutions going bad or whatever.


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How about making it up with fairly hot water - boil water, allow to cool to 70-80degC or so, then make up - should act to pasteurize it, help storage??
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