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Needing a simple fert for nanos

My only tanks are a 5 and 7.5. Both are low tech, and while I appreciate the lack of algae, I've noticed that my plants aren't doing as well as they could. There's been slow growth, and in my stems, I'm seeing pale leaves that don't look healthy. Both have inert substrate, and I use Osmocote+ root tabs, but it doesn't seem like enough for the water column-feeding plants.

Is there's a simple (and cheap if possible) fertilizer that would work for me? I'm not interested in mixing my own, and would prefer liquid. I'm leaning towards Seachem Comprehensive, but are there other options?

5 gallon:
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-Mainly crypts, anubias, java fern
-very low stocked, handful of shrimp + 2 livebearer fry

7.5 gallon:
-medium light
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-Crypts, dwarf lily, java fern, marselia, rotala
-Shrimp heaven, will have fish eventually
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Seachem comp is great for micros for nano tanks. It severely lacks in macros though. Maybe get Seachem N, P, K to supplement (although that isn't very cheap lol)

Or mix some dry ferts for like $15 (sorry but I had to)


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Pfertz line. A single pump from each bottle will be all a nano needs. They'll last a very long time.


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Tropica specialized fertilizer sounds like what you're looking for. One bottle containing all relevant micros and macros. Tough to find in the US though, try E b a y
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Why don't you want to mix your own? You could make a WTB ad asking for dry ferts pre-measured to make 500ml solutions. Then you could just put the ferts into regular water bottles (macros in one and micros/iron in another) and dose them each once a week three days apart. You could probably get everything for $10-15 shipped.


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Ask niclocg, a member here, this member knows their stuff. They sell liquid ferts pre-made in 500ml bottles ready for you to dose. I have ordered before great person who contributes to the community quite often. Or order dry ferts and mix yourself of them aswell

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Macro/micro mix about $20.00 and add maybe 1/8 tsp once a week.
Mix does not have phosphates but fish food might suffice for this nutrient.
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Ask niclocg, a member here, this member knows their stuff. They sell liquid ferts pre-made in 500ml bottles ready for you to dose. I have ordered before great person who contributes to the community quite often. Or order dry ferts and mix yourself of them aswell

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I'm interested too but cannot find a user by that name here.

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Maybe I spelled it wrong, try nilocg just tell him you guys were referred by me and he will help you out Pronto.

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Macro/micro mix about $20.00 and add maybe 1/8 tsp once a week.
Mix does not have phosphates but fish food might suffice for this nutrient.
I would not suggest the micro/macro mix. Fish food may or may not provide enough phosphate, you really dont know. For about the same price you can get all the necessary ferts separately and know that you are dosing enough. Also, there are times which you need to dose more or less of certain nutrients and with the macro/micro mix you do not have that option.

If anyone has any questions about what or how much to mix for your given tank, I or many others can help you with that, just ask.

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I agree with NilOCG. Using an all in one mix is not the way to go. Do you know your nitrate or phosphate levels? How often (and how much) do you change your water?

Since you're nearing a thousand posts here I' d be happy to help you out. We have to take care of the regulars IMO. PM me and I will send you enough dry ferts measured for your tank so you can see the difference at no charge. I do need the water change schedule and levels to mix an appropriate solution though.

The only thing I ask is if you find them useful you buy from users here. I prefer to support the hobbyists rather than commercial sites.
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Although I like the Pfertz products and have no problem recommending them as it's an easy way to get a reasonably complete set of fertilizers, I've been won over by dry.

I originally bought the Pfertz micro/macro/root tab package and was happy to see darker greens and faster growth. Added potassium when the holes in my java fern pointed to that deficiency. VERY happy with the mix. Only problem? My tank's a potassium hog and I was going thru the stuff waaay too fast.

Last month I ordered K2S04 (potassium) from Greenleaf Aquariums. Didn't come with instructions (of course) but found a couple threads here on TPT listing 'recipes' for the same 500ml bottle my Fertz potassium came in. With Pfertz, being mindful of the cost, I tended to dose the minimum to keep problems at bay. The cost for mixing my own with dry materials, however, is so low that I have no problem dosing to the real needs of the tank--and I'm already showing significant improvement in several plants. Once my macro/micro mixes run out, I'll be replacing them with dry components as well.

The benefits of being able to tailor your ferts to your specific needs really can't be over-stated.
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It's members like nilocg and Zorfox that make this community thrive and keep users coming back. Thanks guys for what you do. I appreciate it and I'm sure everyone else does as well

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Why do I want an all-in-one? Because frankly, I have the attention span of a caffeinated squirrel, the spending money of a broke college student, and the storage space of a half shoebox.

I do weekly water changes (40-60%) but I also don't want to deal with dosing minute amounts of x and testing every 5 minutes. My tanks are tiny, usually less than 5 gallons, so it's not practical for me to have pound containers of all these ferts that will take me 10+ years to go through.

For the record though, I'm ordering a mix from nilocg. Looking forward to it!
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