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Iron dosing

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Im dosing 0.5ppm by this calculator



but this values is for each dose of 20ml?
So im dosing 20ml x 3 times a week so its 60ml weekly.
So im dosing 1.5 ppm of Fe weekly? Dont is to much?

btw,im on pressurised co2 and have 0.78W/L, almost 3W/gallon and im dosing this for macros:





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That's correct if you have a heavily planted aquarium.
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That's correct if you have a heavily planted aquarium.
Im far from heavily so is best to decrease it?
Does this 1.5 weekly can be warmfull to my amano's and fish?
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With iron, you can get toxic levels especially if you have a soil substrate. I would back off on the iron until you see deficiencies, then dose sparingly until you see improvement.


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With iron, you can get toxic levels especially if you have a soil substrate. I would back off on the iron until you see deficiencies, then dose sparingly until you see improvement.
I have JBL AQUABASIS PLUS and akadama on top.
I Will dose 10ml each time so will be 0.75 ppm weekly

But reading the calculador info it say to dose 3 os 4 time a week so that is my dought.
Is the 12g for 0.5 ppm to reach E. I goal is by each dose or is by week?
Im a little confused here ...

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Full EI dosing assumes it's heavily planted, which is why you would dose frequently. If not, then dose very lightly. Also, dosing Fe is useless if you aren't dosing other nutrients because plants can't grow on just Fe alone.
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Given what you have stated so far:

I'd dose about 1/3rd of this, as plant biomass increases, then 1/2, then if you have a lot of plant biomass, then go full amount dosed 2-3x a week.

Generally I dose traces more than the Macros. I see no good reason to dose macro nutrients more than 2x a week. Traces, you can dose say 0.1 - 0.2 ppm a day, each day, but if you miss a day here or there, or skip 2 days, no big issue.

Till a planted tank is well established, 2x a week water changes, say 50-80% is a good idea.

Once plant growth is doing very well and growth is good, then you can increase the ferts, reduce the water change frequencies.

The focus is more about the plants, less about the ferts really.
So watch them and dial the CO2 in as best you can. That is the main issue for most aquarist with higher light and CO2, not ferts.




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Given what you have stated so far:

I'd dose about 1/3rd of this, as plant biomass increases, then 1/2, then if you have a lot of plant biomass, then go full amount dosed 2-3x a week.

Generally I dose traces more than the Macros. I see no good reason to dose macro nutrients more than 2x a week. Traces, you can dose say 0.1 - 0.2 ppm a day, each day, but if you miss a day here or there, or skip 2 days, no big issue.

Till a planted tank is well established, 2x a week water changes, say 50-80% is a good idea.

Once plant growth is doing very well and growth is good, then you can increase the ferts, reduce the water change frequencies.

The focus is more about the plants, less about the ferts really.
So watch them and dial the CO2 in as best you can. That is the main issue for most aquarist with higher light and CO2, not ferts.
Thanks Tom for your help.

i will dose 6ml x 3 times a week to get 0.15ppm for each dose. By the end of the week i will have about 0.45 ppm.

So, what i was thinking was right. That calculator value is for each dose and not for the entire week...
Its easy to find a macro calculator but for micros dosing...

Thanks once more...
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I personally dose a good amount of iron in my high tech tank. 0.5 PPM with CSM+B as well as another 0.75 PPM with iron chelate on micro days. Quite heavily planted 75 gallon.

I also have soil substrate. Nothing bad has happened so far - plants are doing very well.

Could be over-doing it but it seems to be working well - just sharing my experiences.


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I personally dose a good amount of iron in my high tech tank. 0.5 PPM with CSM+B as well as another 0.75 PPM with iron chelate on micro days. Quite heavily planted 75 gallon.

I also have soil substrate. Nothing bad has happened so far - plants are doing very well.

Could be over-doing it but it seems to be working well - just sharing my experiences.
thanks for sharing
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