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Help with dosing.

Okay so I'm ready to start dry dosing my tank with EI (excel based).

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Ecoxotic e series (80% brightness)
2 aquaclear 50s
2 150w heaters
Inert sand

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15 cardinals
10 rasbora hengeli
4 Otos
3 assassin snails
Xx# of pond snails

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Water wisteria
Java fern
Anubia nanas
Anubias congenesis
Flame moss
S. Repens
Crypt wendtii green
Crypt wendtii tropica
Crypt wendtii undulata


I know the usual dosing for a low tech with excel is 1/3 or 1/4 of the regular dosing but is it possible to just dose each once a week instead? I believe this will make it easier for me to remember and it's also hard to find measurements in 1/32 tsp.

I have everything needed besides plantex cmb but I'll be using flourish comprehensive instead for now.


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This nutrient calculator has a selection for low light EI weekly.

http://rota.la/
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Well I know regular ei dosing is like this

40-60 Gallons
1/2 tsp KNO3 3x a week
1/8 tsp KH2PO4 3x a week
1/8 tsp K2SO4 3x a week

I was wondering if I could just dose this once a week. Because that would be 1/3 EI dosing


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If that is a weekly caculation then yes.
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Yes you should be fine. I am not positive that all the nutrients will stay in the water column for a week but I think you should be fine.
Also I would dose like 2x excel if you're gonna be using ferts. I do that with good results in my excel tanks w/dosing 1/2 EI on a daily basis.


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Well I know regular ei dosing is like this

40-60 Gallons
1/2 tsp KNO3 3x a week
1/8 tsp KH2PO4 3x a week
1/8 tsp K2SO4 3x a week

I was wondering if I could just dose this once a week. Because that would be 1/3 EI dosing


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Yes, IMHO
I do same thing.
Would also include trace minerals like CSM+B or Seachems Flourish comprehensive.
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IMO definitely get CSM+B over flourish comp. It takes a LOT of flourish comp to match the nutrients in a dry mixture like CSM+B. I made this mistake and used to dose bottle-recommeded doses of flourish comp every other day and had deficiencies all over the place


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Yes you should be fine. I am not positive that all the nutrients will stay in the water column for a week but I think you should be fine.
Also I would dose like 2x excel if you're gonna be using ferts. I do that with good results in my excel tanks w/dosing 1/2 EI on a daily basis.

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For the whole time am afraid too much excel will kill my fish on my other tank so I dose only 1 ml in my 10 gal.
After I heard klibs so I give a try.

a week later all the BGA and diatom were gone.
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Okay thanks guys for the clarification!!!

And I will be using flourish comp for now. When and if I do switch to csm+b I understand that you have to add calcium and magnesium if I'm not correct.

Also I do already dose excel at 2x the recommend dosage daily.


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The shrimp acted up at first when I went from the regular Excel doses to double that amount but nothing died and they are now OK with it. They just swam around the tank more for half an hr when I fist put in the extra. Only on the first time also.
Seems to work on GSA but not Cladophora. I use med light so I have GSA on the glass after three days/w the other tank which doesn't get Excel, but the one whch does goes more than a week without the GSA.
The doses that you listed which require three doses a week are less per dose than the once a week doses which are listed under "EI Low light/Weekly".
Not any great deal smaller but check that section to see the difference.
You will find it to be a bit light on the K2SO4(to keep from increasing your nitrates
instead of raising the KNO3) because of the Wisteria. But no harm in starting it at the regular amount and waiting to see if the Wisteria does get holes in it.
With that sub especially the Crypts would benefit from Osmocote+ being put under them. Capsules are cheap and sold by at least two on here. I just use my tweezers to push the individual beads of it into the sub around each plant that I want extra ferts in/on. Only have a couple of 10g tanks though and few plants that I feel need it so
it's not much for me to do this.

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