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Water softener bypass, fixed! Now what?

Many of you know about my water issues, but I had a friend come fix the bypass valve on the water softener today. Now the question is how slowly should I transition the tank? The pH has stayed around 8.4 due to the softener. The owner of a LFS told me to do 25% water changes every few days. I asked him about treatment for a few of my fish that I thought had columnaris and he said the improved water quality should be enough.
Should I add carbon?
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Water softener usually adds sodium and removes calcium and magnesium.
Fish need the Ca and Mg, do not need the Na.

25% water changes twice a week is probably fine. I would not do any larger than that, though. Let the fish acclimate to the new water.

pH is not as important and the GH and KH.
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Got any thoughts on what he changed on the bypass part? Maybe it had been left in the bypass position?
If the softener is working now, I would expect the water GH and KH to change dramatically. Any test results on that? My thinking is that the change will be really large and make it tough on the fish if they are not given lots of time to gradually work into it. While I might agree with the LFS on good water being good medicine, that is not true if you have fish fighting disease and they get hit with adjusting to different water too quickly. Zero GH and KH may not be good.
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Got any thoughts on what he changed on the bypass part? Maybe it had been left in the bypass position?
If the softener is working now, I would expect the water GH and KH to change dramatically. Any test results on that? My thinking is that the change will be really large and make it tough on the fish if they are not given lots of time to gradually work into it. While I might agree with the LFS on good water being good medicine, that is not true if you have fish fighting disease and they get hit with adjusting to different water too quickly. Zero GH and KH may not be good.
I've been unable to bypass the softener because the the valve was broken. Every water source( even outside) is attached to the softener. I got it fixed and did a 20% water change today. I just don't wanna shock my fish, and already lost a neon, and one of my rainbowfish has red gills, and looks like it has fin rot.
I will test water tomorrow, and post results.
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Previously I had thought you were OK not messing/w the water softner till later after you "fixed" the other problems by working on ferts for better growth.
But now I realize the lack of growth may have been contributed to by the softner removing the CA and G from the water. This thread talke about that and how it is needed for plant growth.
https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=713850
But I just breefly mentioned that water softners cause harm when I first started reading your threads because if you remember I said I prefer to work on one thing at a time. So you know what caused the results you get.
But now that the softner is fixed I'll bet you get some faster growth from no longer taking out the CA and MG.
BTW in another thread you mentioned getting more plants...have you yet ?
You said something about a plant package you had coming...
I believe that someone on that thread suggested that more would help also.

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I spoke with the owner of the pet store that believes all my previous problems with plants, fuzz on the glass, etc was from the softener.
I did get a big plant package. But I still have questions!

(1) I still have sick fish, should I give them anything?
(2) How often should I do water changes to acclimate my fish to the new water?
(3) should I add carbon to one of my filters ?
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The former post of KH above 300 was what prompted me to inquire about what might have been done to the bypass. A reading that high indicated the softener was bypassed or not working.
I may be confusing the issues with the softener and readings in the various posts. My thinking goes like this. If you had high KH due to the bypass being in the wrong position, moving it will give you near zero KH but only if the softener is working.
Did you do some tests after the softener repair to verify that it is now correct and removing the hardness (KH)? Without testing, the repair may not have changed the water at all. There are several other fairly simple things that can go wrong on the softener.
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I am on a well with really hard water. I have a softner and an RO unit after the softner that I use for the fish tanks. No complaints and gives me complete control of the water parameters.
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