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carpet plants and the water column

So I have been thinking about this. I'm planning to do an iwugami style 60p. I've been growing a carpet of elocharis sp. mini in a nano tank I have, so I can transfer it into the new tank once its fully set up.

For new my tank, it will mostly be the carpet with a little bit of moss, so the demand on the water column, I think should be very light.

So my question is, do I modify my e.i. dosing to account to diminished water column requirements? Do pure root feeders not draw nutrients at all? Any ideas of how to modify?
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Root feeders draw ferts from the water column too, just not in the same quantity as say stem plants do. I don't think anyone can tell you with any certainty how much to reduce your column fertilizing by for hairgrass and moss vs other plants. No one knows exactly what the uptake rate is. This is something you'll discover with observation.

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Root feeders draw ferts from the water column too, just not in the same quantity as say stem plants do. I don't think anyone can tell you with any certainty how much to reduce your column fertilizing by for hairgrass and moss vs other plants. No one knows exactly what the uptake rate is. This is something you'll discover with observation.
Yeah, you're right.

I guess, my fear is that I've noticed with my nano (planted only), that I've started to get some hair algae and gda. It almost always makes a comeback after I dose micros (I dose to the what the calculator's tell me). I've got my co2 cranking in that tank, so I dont think its a co2 issue. Although correlation does not mean causation, I'm definitely noticing a pattern with when I dose.

I think for my new tank, I will dose macro's normally, and cut back on my micros (and probably switch out the plantex csb for flourish) and see how how it goes.
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One piece of sound advice is to only change one thing at a time. This helps you keep track of what may be causing issues. If you increase macros and decrease micros, and switch micro nutrient sources, all at once, and your algae gets worse; you won't know where you went wrong.

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One piece of sound advice is to only change one thing at a time. This helps you keep track of what may be causing issues. If you increase macros and decrease micros, and switch micro nutrient sources, and your algae gets worse; you won't know where you went wrong.
i totally agree. but as for me, i normally panic and change a lot of things at once. then its hard to track which did what.
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Weird, I asked an almost identical question on Barr report after reading this article : http://www.aquariss.net/intervjui/en...-and-west.html

Check out the part where he mentions that he doesn't dose other than root tabs. Interesting.
I also noticed that I get gda only after I dose micros too. I wonder what the issue could be?

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