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Fishless Cycling Log - 75 gallon w/ sump

My first post should probably be a background information

Tap Water parameters:
ph: 7.6+ (off the scale). Local water chart shows standard ph of 8.3
kh: 5-6 dkh
gh: 4-5 dgh

Tank:
75 gallon
48"L x 19"W x 22"H

Substrate:
ACE HARDWARE pool filter sand

Plants: Minimal
100% Anubia Nana 'Petite's' - 15? plants

Lighting:
Standard 48" T8 fixture? It came with the tank
I have plans to get something else in the future...

Filtration:
CPR overflow going into custom 20 gallon high sump
3 chambers:
1. Mechanical (flows under)
2. Bio Media (Flows up and over
3. Return pump - Mag Drive 5 with 1/2"mpt upscaled to 1" PVC piping running back up to opposite side of the tank...

Other Notes
Aquarium temp is set at 84 and aeration is being provided via return pump. The return pump water level is kind of low, kicking bubbles up into the return line. The return nozzle is below water level so the action is similar to an air stone.


I am in the midst of a fishless cycle, so I will post water testing results in the next post...


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Dosing Ammonia at 90 Gallons

Utilizing 'Dr. Tims Fishless Cycling Ammonia'.

Thursday 07/31/2014
11:30pm: Dosed 4ppm ammonia
12:27am: 4ppm Ammonia reading

Friday 08/01/2014
11:15pm
Ammonia: 1.5ppm
Noticeable yellowing of bio media

Monday 08/04/2014
11:27pm
Ammonia: 1ppm
Kh: 6dkh
Gh: 5dgh

11:41pm
Dosed 2ppm Ammonia to replenish 3ppm threshold.
Ammonia: 3ppm

Wednesday 08/06/2014
9:07pm
Ammonia: 2ppm
Nitrite: 0ppm

Dosed 1/4 tsp CSM+B (micro)
Dosed 1/4 tsp KH2PO4 (phosphates) - according to APC Fertilator - @ 90 gallons this equates to 2.87ppm


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You must have had a few bacteria to get going so fast with this. Perhaps came in on the leaves and stems of the Anubias.
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You must have had a few bacteria to get going so fast with this. Perhaps came in on the leaves and stems of the Anubias.
Perhaps. I had about 15 plants put in at once...

I do have a lot of 'slime' and what looks to be some fungus of some sort beginning to grow on the branches too. There are no fish in the tank at the moment.

The water also has a slight brownish tint to it from the branches I put in.

I am a little surprised to not have ANY nitrite readings....Time is key though in this situation.



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Thursday 08/07/14
11:59pm
Ammonia: 1.5ppm
Nitrite: ~5ppm; this was a little hard to read but there is definitely a lot of nitrites in the water.
Nitrate: ~2.5ppm

12:26am
Dosed additional 2ppm ammonia. Will post new readings tonight...


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Saturday 08/09/14
1:32pm
Ammonia: 1ppm
Nitrite: 5ppm+ **Off the charts 100%**
Nitrate: 20ppm


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Do enough of a water change to bring the NO2 back under 5 ppm. The bacteria do not do so well with high ammonia or NO2 (over 5 ppm).
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Doing fish less cycling....was dosing 4.5 ml of Dr tims ammonia and tipped the bottle in. Whooops. Lol

Testing water and comparing the tube on the side shows 4 ppm but looking straight down shows straight black...lol. immediate water change necessary?

Will I have a bio die off because of this if I don't change the water and then under stock the tank?

Bump: Doing immediate water change given your last post Diana.


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70% wc done. Retesting ammonia...

**levels at approx 4ppm....will do another wc tomorrow.


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Ammonia at 4 ppm is OK, but the first population of bacteria will change that into nitrite faster than the nitrite removing species (Nitrospira) can get rid of it. So yes, monitor the NO2 and probably be ready to do another water change tomorrow.
You might aim for a bit less ammonia for a few days, maybe dose only to 1-2ppm. This would produce less NO2, and allow the Nitrospira to grow a bit larger a population without having to do water changes. After a couple of days like that, return to 3 ppm and see if the Nitrospira can keep up.
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08/12/14
4:15pm
Ammonia: less than .25ppm
Nitrite: 5ppm+
Nitrate: 20ppm

Waiting for new shipment of Dr. Tims ammonia...


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08/14/14
11:59pm
Ammonia: 0ppm
Nitrite: 0ppm
Nitrate: 20ppm

12:30am
Dosed 1ppm Ammonia


08/15/14
1:30pm
Ammonia: .25ppm
Nitrite: 1ppm
Nitrate: 20ppm or so


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So try 2 ppm ammonia, see if the bacteria are up to handling that much.
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The filter on my Agassizii's tank broke, forcing me to put them in the 75.

I'll continue to post test results with it and keep the thread updated.

Currently they are the only two fish in the entire tank, with feedings of frozen brine shrimp and blood worms every other day or so.


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