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Kh=1 i want to get this right



After 6 weeks, my KH remains 1 in a new planted tank. I have purchased lots of bells and whistles including the following:
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PH Controller (set at 6.4) so it rarely turns on.
Satellite Plus LED 11 hours (lights up the tanks a little).
Build My LED 8 hours (like the sun) 6300K.

I am getting diatomes and some brownish/green hair algae the I remove by hand by aiming gravity fed water at it.

My plants are not growing well and appear weak. the leaves on my Ludwigia Peruensis look like wrinkled grandma skin. The aponogeton longiplumulosus has seen better days as well.

I have been adding Potassium according to directions and Aquariumplants.com liquid Fert. according to directions.

Nitrate <10
Nitrite =0
Ammonia =0

My plan this week was to finally add Seachem Alkaline Buffer to raise KH and add a UV Coralife Turbo Twist.

Fish:

6 Otos
2 Algae Eaters
2 Glass Cats
1 Rummy Nose
1 Cardinal

My goal is to add more Cardinals and Rummy Nose but I want to get the water and Plants right first.

Am I doing something wrong?
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-23-2014, 05:07 AM
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Yes, it does seem like you're doing something wrong. Diatoms are normal. Hair algae not. You probably have a deficiency for the plants and too much light, which is probably causing the deficiency.
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The diatoms make me think that there's low flow. Try increasing flow and/or filtration if you can. Also, why a 6300k bulb? I've always used much warmer bulbs, around 5500k.
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The 6300K is from buildmyled.com and was highly recommended. I bought the smallest wave maker I could find and it seemed to be way to powerful. It was a sunsun jvp-110. I removed it. My phosphates are somewhere between 5 and 10 ppm. I have not dosed potassium or aquariumplants.com liquid in 4 days. I did finally add alkaline buffer and which raised kh to 4 and my ph monitor is set to 6.8. What do you think my next step should be, or should I wait it out for a couple days. My plants usually start to pearl about 3 yours before lights out.
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I have a KH about this, my pH is 5.7-5.9 range, you are not adding enough CO2, this assumes that the KH is actually 1 however.

Shoot for 8-10 hour max of light.

Sounds like a CO2 issue, like 95% of the algae and plant problems we see on line.




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i have almost 0 Kh and no issue with plants, first check the co2.

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I have a KH about this, my pH is 5.7-5.9 range, you are not adding enough CO2, this assumes that the KH is actually 1 however.

Shoot for 8-10 hour max of light.

Sounds like a CO2 issue, like 95% of the algae and plant problems we see on line.
The bennificial bacteria is fine with that pH?
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The bennificial bacteria is fine with that pH?
It's not optimal for the bacteria but you're not going to kill them off. The plants will assimilate the ammonia. The bacteria are actually playing a secondary role so concentrate on growing plants not bacteria. Thousands of beautiful tanks with those PH ranges can't be wrong.
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Exactly right:
Once the population has built up, it is OK to alter the water chemistry. It is only in the initial stages when you need the fastest growth that you want to cater to the bacteria with hard, alkaline water.

Now get the plants growing well, and they will handle a lot of the waste.
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The bennificial bacteria is fine with that pH?
I'll let the picture of my tank tell you.










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Add some olive nerites...
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