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Question Fert regime for a 47gal tank?

So, I'm a newbie to planted tanks wanting help with my ferts. I have access to all the ferts on this site: www.Aquaessentials.co.uk. My tank has 165Watts of light, heavily planted, about 60" of fish and inverts, DIY CO2, and Tropica plant nutrition underneath a layer of blac sand as a substrate. Included in the fish etc. are an SAE, MTS snails and a BN. Can you guys please, please help me with the cheapest and easiest dosing regime for my tank? I've been able to register all the new Planted tank info from upto here - where I am just confused.
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2 things, join UKSAPS first, then buy a CO2 gas tank system for this tank. You have defined your goals for the most part it seems, fairly high light so CO2 will be the weakest link, generally it is for most folks, not the nutrient dosing which tends to be rather easy and far more controllable.

You will get local help, local resources for ferts, local help for CO2 gas systems etc and other local nuances. Best bet. You will learn more and have far fewer mistakes in a local group.

Not to mention save a lot of money.

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2 things, join UKSAPS first, then buy a CO2 gas tank system for this tank. You have defined your goals for the most part it seems, fairly high light so CO2 will be the weakest link, generally it is for most folks, not the nutrient dosing which tends to be rather easy and far more controllable.

You will get local help, local resources for ferts, local help for CO2 gas systems etc and other local nuances. Best bet. You will learn more and have far fewer mistakes in a local group.

Not to mention save a lot of money.

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Well, I would have gone non-DIY CO2 - IF I had more electrics! I only have 4 plugs to use on this tank - 2 used by lighting, 1 used by filter and 1 used by heater. Obviously all essential. So, I don't think I could manage to sneak in a CO2 gas system. Yes I hate it to...

Where can I join this UKSAPS then? Is it on the internet? My Google search revealed some sort of free website hosting thing? I might not be able to join anyway since I'm only a kid. I'm allowed on aquatics forums but I don't know about non-net things.

I might be (Probably will be) lowering the light to 140W soon. I just really need some help on a fert dosing scheme. Does Flourish excel contain everything I need (Macro AND Micronutrients)?

And, slightly off topic - do you know of any small (30cm high) green plants? I could use one in my scape right now.

Thanks so much!
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Sorry, in my rush to type:

http://ukaps.org/forum/index.php?sid...7ceb58b65ecffd

BTW, you do not need another electrical outlet, you can run the CO2 without a solenoid and bubble to gas into a diffuser disc or a filter etc.
It's a gas tank under pressure No electric required.

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Here is the link to UKSAPS.

http://www.ukaps.org/

There is no reason you can't add an additional plug strip if you need more outlets.
Flourish Excel contains neither macro nor micro nutrients it is a source of organic carbon that can be used as a substitute for CO2 in low light tanks. Once you reach and exceed 2 wpg you would want to use CO2 not Excel.
Read through the Dosing Regimes sticky in the Water Parameters forum.

hope that helps....
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Tom beat me to the punch on a link for UKAPS... have to learn to type faster!
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Here is the link to UKSAPS.

There is no reason you can't add an additional plug strip if you need more outlets.
Flourish Excel contains neither macro nor micro nutrients it is a source of organic carbon that can be used as a substitute for CO2 in low light tanks. Once you reach and exceed 2 wpg you would want to use CO2 not Excel.
Read through the Dosing Regimes sticky in the Water Parameters forum.
Ah.. I was under the impression Excel was a fert... So, can you help me with which ferts to dose? I'm really confused... Like, in the dry ferts section of my online store I'm using, theres several kinds of every nutrient it seems?
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There is a brief rundown of fert usage and a dosage calculator on my website: www.beginneraquarist.petfish.net click on fertilization at the top. You need nitrate, phosphate, potassium, and iron and traces.
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Is there a way to do it with using he minimal ferts possible - instead of throwing away all the old ones at the end of a week? I'm on a slight budget you see - and the last thing I want to be doing is wasting ferts!

I'm slightly confused, as on the dry fewts page of the comapny I'm ordering from has really wierd names that none of you seem to mention... I mean http://www.aquaessentials.co.uk/inde...roducts_id=522. Is that supposed to be Nitrate, or a totally different nutrient? Or even Potassium and Nitrate? And *gulp* the trace elements sold out... :-P Can I without them until I can get a 1000g bag?
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