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New york water dosing regimine!!!

i was wondering if there is any one local that can tell me what amounts of what fertilizers there dosing because im having trouble getting with my tank. I live on long island so if anyone in the area could help me out and tell me what ferts and when it would be great
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We're going to need full tank parameters to tell you why your plants arent growing and what you should be dosing.

Fertilization varies widly depending on lighting, substrate, and the plants you're trying to grow. I have one tank where I'm dosing daily (N, P, K, micros, CO2, and excel), and another tank that I don't dose at all. Both have plants flourishing in them.

Generally, long island water is fairly soft. As far as I know, the only main difference with our water compared to the majority of the US is that we'll almost never need a reverse osmosis unit to soften our water, and you might consider using a gH booster to add buffering capacity to prevent pH fluctuations.

Edit: If you live out east and are using well-water, might be a different story.
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The EI is how I dose. Just buy some dry ferts and measure with a set of Teaspoons and dump in tank.

Dry ferts> http://www.bestaquariumregulator.com/index.htm

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... and you might consider using a GH booster to add buffering capacity to prevent pH fluctuations ...
A GH Booster doesn't add buffering capacity. It mainly adds Mg and Ca to increase the hardness.

It's KH that influences the buffering capacity because it involves carbonates, bicarbonates, phosphates, etc.

I have soft water and this version of EI works great for me. I use Seachem's Equilibrium for the GH Booster and Tropica's Plant Nutrition liquid for the traces. I add a small amount of K2SO4 midweek to keep the pinholes out of my Anubias plants.
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Most NYC water is like SF's.

http://sfbaaps.org/articles/dixon_01.html

These are very low lean levels based on 2 w/gal of lighting.
We have a wider range and better handle on what we can add these days, but this is still fairly applicable.

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A GH Booster doesn't add buffering capacity. It mainly adds Mg and Ca to increase the hardness.

It's KH that influences the buffering capacity because it involves carbonates, bicarbonates, phosphates, etc.
Left C, thank you very much for correcting me. I wouldn't want to confuse anyone (including myself!)
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Left C, thank you very much for correcting me. I wouldn't want to confuse anyone (including myself!)
That's fine and you're welcome.

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ok ive tried ei dosing and was not very succesful but here is my current parameters.

PH=7.0
kh=2.0
Gh=?

nitrites=0
ammonia=o
nitrates=10ppm

dosing
3 grams k2s04 3x wk dry

solution 1-250 ml water 15.5g kno3, 2.8g kh2po4-dosing 30 ml 3x per week
this equates to
1.86 grams per dose kno3
.336 grams per dose kh2p04

I am also dosing flourish 3x a week for micros per instuctions on bottle. I do have plantex csm+b which i plan on using when i run out of flourish

I also add a 3/4 tsp of gh booster on sundays after water changes.

Is there anything im missing or amounts that are incorrect. Today i have a cloudy tank which i believe to be green water. no fish deaths though.

forgot to add lighting which is 3x39 watt t5 ho. tank is 65 gal 36x18x24. pressurized co2 drop checker is green so im guessing 20-30 ppm
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So far with my 29gal, 55watt CO2 2bps moderately planted tank with weed stems I have to dose EI but my KNO3 and my K2SO4 staggered.
Day1: 1/4tsp kno3 and 1/16tsp k2so4,
day3: 1/8tsp kno3 and 1/8tsp k2so4,
day 5:1/16tsp or so kno3 and 1/4tsp k2so4
day1,3,5 1/16 k phospate
For whatever reason if I dont I get some crazy amounts of diatoms and some kind of really hard green spot algae that destroys my anubias.
Where on LI are you from I live in smithtown.
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ok ive tried ei dosing and was not very succesful but here is my current parameters.

PH=7.0
kh=2.0
Gh=?

nitrites=0
ammonia=o
nitrates=10ppm

dosing
3 grams k2s04 3x wk dry

solution 1-250 ml water 15.5g kno3, 2.8g kh2po4-dosing 30 ml 3x per week
this equates to
1.86 grams per dose kno3
.336 grams per dose kh2p04

I am also dosing flourish 3x a week for micros per instuctions on bottle. I do have plantex csm+b which i plan on using when i run out of flourish

I also add a 3/4 tsp of gh booster on sundays after water changes.

Is there anything im missing or amounts that are incorrect. Today i have a cloudy tank which i believe to be green water. no fish deaths though.

forgot to add lighting which is 3x39 watt t5 ho. tank is 65 gal 36x18x24. pressurized co2 drop checker is green so im guessing 20-30 ppm
I have pressurized CO2 with a 4.26 dKH drop checker that stays green.

I'm using this dosing regimen with just a few changes:
http://www.barrreport.com/estimative...chy-folks.html

I have very soft water with low GH, KH, NO3, PO4, K and Fe.

This is the dosing regimen for 40 gallons of water that I'm using:
Equilibrium: 1/2 tsp during water change
CaCl2∙2H2O: 1 tsp during water change
MgSO4∙7H2O: 1/4 tsp during water change

K2SO4: 1/8 tsp - dose 1X at midweek

KNO3: 49.3 grams mixed with 500 mL of distilled water - dose 40 mL 3X weekly - each dose = 16 ppm of NO3 and 10 ppm of K
KH2PO4: 4.3 grams mixed with 500 mL of distilled water - dose 40 mL 3X weekly - each dose = 1.6 ppm of PO4
Flourish Iron: - dose 5 mL 3X weekly -each dose is 0.33 ppm of Fe
TMG (Tropica Plant Nutrition liquid: - dose 5 mL 3X weekly -each dose =
0.26 ppm of K
0.13 ppm of Mg
0.33 ppm of S
0.001 ppm of B
0.002 ppm of Cu
0.023 ppm of Fe
0.013 ppm of Mn
0.0006 ppm of Mo
0.0006 ppm of Zn

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Oh I forgot to add on days 2,4,6 I use Kent micro ferts.
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