how do you check nutrient levels? - The Planted Tank Forum
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 03-03-2008, 04:32 AM
rick4him
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
how do you check nutrient levels?

Do they make test drops for them?
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 26 (permalink) Old 03-03-2008, 05:02 AM
Children Boogie
 
mistergreen's Avatar
 
PTrader: (13/100%)
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 16,743
you can check for Nitrate & phosphate. There are test kits for potassium too.
But these tests are ball-park results.

It's easier to look at your plants to see if your plants are missing any nutrients or use the EI dosing method where you take the guess work out of it.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
mistergreen is offline  
post #3 of 26 (permalink) Old 03-03-2008, 05:04 AM
rick4him
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Hmmm. So you shouldn't check your levels?
I'm using the EI method, but how do I know if I am putting enough of things in?

WHy not 2 dashes, instead of 1 dash, you know?
 
post #4 of 26 (permalink) Old 03-03-2008, 05:11 AM
rick4him
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
You know for instance they say the target for nitrates is 5-10 ppm. How do I know if what I am putting in my tank is getting me to 5-10 ppm?
post #5 of 26 (permalink) Old 03-03-2008, 05:14 AM
Fresh Fish Freak
 
lauraleellbp's Avatar
 
PTrader: (70/100%)
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 24,403
There are tests for nitrAtes. API makes a good one.





To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
- Next meeting Monday, Oct 13, 2014 @ 7:15pm- See ya there!

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
lauraleellbp is offline  
post #6 of 26 (permalink) Old 03-03-2008, 05:16 AM
rick4him
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
How about the "K"
post #7 of 26 (permalink) Old 03-03-2008, 05:17 AM
Children Boogie
 
mistergreen's Avatar
 
PTrader: (13/100%)
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 16,743
You can check the levels if you want but it's not always accurate, those test kits... And it's tedious after a while.

The EI method will over dose your tank so that there is no chance you're low on nutrients. And then do the weekly water change so you don't kill the fishes


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
mistergreen is offline  
post #8 of 26 (permalink) Old 03-03-2008, 05:19 AM
Children Boogie
 
mistergreen's Avatar
 
PTrader: (13/100%)
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 16,743
K test kits are expensive... And they're sold through agricultural & science stores.. It's not worth the $$$.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
mistergreen is offline  
post #9 of 26 (permalink) Old 03-03-2008, 05:19 AM
rick4him
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
OK. It just seems like I'm not putting in much trace. I'm doing trace 3 times a week, and the other things 3 times a week. I'm putting in like 1/4 of a tsb or something of trace. Before I used to put in 3 capfulls of trace once a week. So I feel like i'm doing less then before... you know.
post #10 of 26 (permalink) Old 03-03-2008, 05:21 AM
rick4him
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by mistergreen View Post
K test kits are expensive... And they're sold through agricultural & science stores.. It's not worth the $$$.
What would happen if someone put 3 TABLESPOONS of "k" into their tank 3 times a week?

In that case could you OVERDOSE and have bad effects on your tank?
post #11 of 26 (permalink) Old 03-03-2008, 05:25 AM
Children Boogie
 
mistergreen's Avatar
 
PTrader: (13/100%)
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 16,743
just stick to the EI, you'll be fine..
It's all in the math.
amount X * volume Y * mg/ L etc......... (whatever it is)


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
mistergreen is offline  
post #12 of 26 (permalink) Old 03-03-2008, 05:28 AM
Planted Tank Guru
 
BiscuitSlayer's Avatar
 
PTrader: (9/100%)
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Acworth, GA
Posts: 2,365
I have OD'ed P in my tank and it had the effect of erradicating GSA and yellowing glosso and some other plants very quickly as well. Not so good for the plants, but didn't produce more algae. Fish might have been hating me as well.

Filstar Pimp #106


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
- XP2, Dual Aquaticlife link Fixture , Pressurized CO2, DIY Reactor, EI dosing


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
On hold for a while...
BiscuitSlayer is offline  
post #13 of 26 (permalink) Old 03-03-2008, 05:29 AM
Children Boogie
 
mistergreen's Avatar
 
PTrader: (13/100%)
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 16,743
Quote:
Originally Posted by rick4him View Post
What would happen if someone put 3 TABLESPOONS of "k" into their tank 3 times a week?

In that case could you OVERDOSE and have bad effects on your tank?
It depends on the chemical.. It's generally bad to overdose that much..
If we ingest too much K, we'll get heart attacks and such.

But 3 tbls isn't too bad, maybe... That's why you do weekly water changes to fix these issues.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
mistergreen is offline  
post #14 of 26 (permalink) Old 03-03-2008, 05:30 AM
Fresh Fish Freak
 
lauraleellbp's Avatar
 
PTrader: (70/100%)
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 24,403
Rick- what would happen if you ate too many bananas? Would the potassium harm you or wouldn't your body just pass it through? The whole philosophy is based on the idea that deficiency is more likely to cause problems than OD...

Again- the whole point of EI is that you DO overdose, to be on the safe side of making sure that your plants have all the nutrients they can possibly need to out-compete algae. The weekly 50% PWC take care of leveling things out again... Mister already went over that.

You only "tweak" EI if you start to notice some type of problem developing.

The nitrAte levels are important only in that anything over 40ppm is usually harmful to fish, etc... we already had that conversation I think yesterday?





To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
- Next meeting Monday, Oct 13, 2014 @ 7:15pm- See ya there!

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
lauraleellbp is offline  
post #15 of 26 (permalink) Old 03-03-2008, 05:31 AM
rick4him
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Hmm. what about the question I asked about the traces?
Reply

Tags
None

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Planted Tank Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome