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noob here, can anyone help me?

ok im trying to get my first planted tank started. and so far the other forums ive tried have been very little help.

let me start off in saying that i DO know how to start cycleing my tank. i just need to know...

1. do you add your wood, rock, and plants before or after you cycle the tank?
2. will the nitrogen cycle hurt plants?
3. will the nitrogen cycle clear up my water? because it has this white fog swirling around in it.

4. ok, my tank has a ph of 6.2 (i need it at 7.2-7.4) an amonia level of 4-5ppm, a nitrite level of 0.5ppm, and a nitrate level of 0.0ppm. Are these normal levels for a 3 week old tank? would it be ok to add wood and plants right now?

as you can tell, i am very frustrated, and i need somone who knows what the hell they are talkin about to help me. no articles please, just knowlegable advice. thanks!

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REad Rex griggs Guide.
And wasn't the first question answered already?

All everything first. Thats how you get a scape.. Then add the water and plants will cycle for you
No nitrogen Will fertilize the plants
You would expect to get white swirls when you Start a new tank
3 week.. I dont think the ammonia is surpose to be that high..
What substrate are you using..
You were Surpose to add plants Substrate and wood at the beggining to help with the cycle

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1. do you add your wood, rock, and plants before or after you cycle the tank?
2. will the nitrogen cycle hurt plants?
3. will the nitrogen cycle clear up my water? because it has this white fog swirling around in it.

4. ok, my tank has a ph of 6.2 (i need it at 7.2-7.4) an amonia level of 4-5ppm, a nitrite level of 0.5ppm, and a nitrate level of 0.0ppm. Are these normal levels for a 3 week old tank? would it be ok to add wood and plants right now?
1)It is entirely up to you. Before you cycle the tank you can add them so they can start collecting bacteria needed. Plants will use up the Ammonia, nitrites, and nitrates.
2) No. People use plants during fish in cycles many times. I am not sure what method of cycling you are using so I can not tell you exactly if it would be safe. I have read(and experienced) using ammonia and adding it to the tank and I had bad experiences with the plants. But it could have been many things.
3) That is a bacteria bloom. It will happen with high ammonia levels like yours. I suggest doing a water change or letting it go away by itself. Pick up some anacharis and toss it in there and it should absorb the ammonia.
4)You should be seeing Nitrates by now. Numbers should be around <Ammonia-0-.25><Nitrites-0-1><Nitrates-10+>. Do a water change and continue with your method until your numbers are equal to what I stated. You can add the decor at anytime. But depending on your method I would wait. Also make sure you plan carefully. It becomes a chore to constantly redo a tank.


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Keep in mind those graphs and the standard accepted time frames for a cycle are just ideal examples of a 'hands off' situation. Plenty of set backs can and do happen, I've seen upwards of 5ppm ammonia around week three before. Nitrifyers don't follow any online cycling articles or have deadlines in their little world, so anything can happen, they'll settle in when they're good and ready to. Just make sure to add things but don't remove anything. Chances are, your ammonia spiked out around 10, it's already coming down if you're getting nitrites.


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