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New-What should I start with?

Well I am doing my first planted tank. I have a Finnex fugeray 30" on my 20 long. I have eco complete substrate mixed with fluorite black. Was looking to put some ludwigia, maybe rotala, reineckki, the reddish plants, maybe a small sword and I was making going to carpet it with Dwarf hair grass. How should I dose and what should I dose with? I would like to figure this out before I purchase my plants so I know what to do! Thanks!


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Hi there. You can start by looking at this link for EI dosing which is the easiest.

https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=21944

I assume you know where to get the ferts you need online. The fugerray should provide medium light in a 20 L and if you use co2 the 20-40g dosing should work fine.
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I use PPS PRO and have had success with it so far. My tank is only 5 weeks old, but wow.

http://greenleafaquariums.com/aquari...r-package.html

It is an easy program to follow.

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Hi there. You can start by looking at this link for EI dosing which is the easiest.

https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=21944

I assume you know where to get the ferts you need online. The fugerray should provide medium light in a 20 L and if you use co2 the 20-40g dosing should work fine.
Actually I'm not really sure where to get them online! Could you give me a link? Only medium light? I was told that at 12" the fugeray puts out 48 PAR. Thats high medium to low high light right? I have atleast 3" of eco complete. but I'm probably still at 12" considering the fugeray is on like 2-3" legs.
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High end of med level. (if 48 is correct)
http://aquariumfertilizer.com/index....ditU=1&Regit=2
https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=184368
https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...393&highlight=

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Thanks for the links! Might try the PPS!


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[QUOTE=Positron;5093082]Hi there. You can start by looking at this link for EI dosing which is the easiest.[QUOTE]

Would someone explain how EI is easier than pre mixing a solution and injecting a measured amount in each day?

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[quote=Lab_Man;5100018][QUOTE=Positron;5093082]Hi there. You can start by looking at this link for EI dosing which is the easiest.
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Would someone explain how EI is easier than pre mixing a solution and injecting a measured amount in each day?
You can make a liquid solution using the EI method just as easy as you can with PPS-PRO. With EI you will end up dosing 6 days a week instead of 7 days a week so its WAY EASIER. Just joking. But it really just comes down to preference and what you want to do.
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I know that everyone has their personal preference regarding fertilizers ie EI/PPS PRP. I can only go from experience. Mt tank is only 5 weeks old and is experiencing immense growth. I'll stick with PPS PRO for now.

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Hi there. You can start by looking at this link for EI dosing which is the easiest.

You can make a liquid solution using the EI method just as easy as you can with PPS-PRO. With EI you will end up dosing 6 days a week instead of 7 days a week so its WAY EASIER. Just joking. But it really just comes down to preference and what you want to do.
WAY EASIER is subjective. For a beginner that doesn't want run into problems with plant deficiency then it is easier. Being able to take out the guessing work of ferts and focusing on co2 takes a lot of the hassle out of the situation.

Personally I don't use EI anymore and it's easier for me to add what I know my plants use. When I first started, however, EI really helped me target what I needed to focus on most: co2.

The differences between PPS-PRO and EI isn't just the dosing schedule either.
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WAY EASIER is subjective. For a beginner that doesn't want run into problems with plant deficiency then it is easier. Being able to take out the guessing work of ferts and focusing on co2 takes a lot of the hassle out of the situation.

Personally I don't use EI anymore and it's easier for me to add what I know my plants use. When I first started, however, EI really helped me target what I needed to focus on most: co2.

The differences between PPS-PRO and EI isn't just the dosing schedule either.
The WAY EASIER comment was a joke.
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You can buy ferts from forum member Nilocq -- https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...ghlight=nilocg. I always buy my dry ferts from him. I see he now has new liquid ferts. That might help get you started. I prefer dry ferts so I can tailor them to my specific tank needs -- I have 5 tanks.
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LOL .. I just noticed Nilocg was one responding in this thread. Sorry Colin .. didn't even see that.
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