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Add Purigen and then I'm fine?

I love using AqAdvisor as a basis to refer to my bioload, but with this livestock list:

3x Amano
100x Red cherry shrimp
3x Oto catfish
1x Bamboo shrimp
12x Neon tetra

I am at 75% capacity. For filtration i have an AC20 and an Exo Terra FX200. Still it recommends that i add more filtration to the tank. If i add purigen to both filters would that count for anything? In total i have around 155gph in a 20g long. It is on its way to becoming moderately - densely planted as i wait for it to fill in more. I dont currently own everything on the list, the ones that i wish to add are the otos, and tetras as i have no actual fish yet. What do you guys think?

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Per seachem, purigen removes the organic waste that leads to the ammonia, nitrite, nitrate so I would say purigen would help but I wouldn't rely on it by any means.

I personally would cut from the stock or add filtration. Maybe upgrade something instead of adding another filter all together?

Overstocking can be done but it is a challenge, from what I've read.
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Per seachem, purigen removes the organic waste that leads to the ammonia, nitrite, nitrate so I would say purigen would help but I wouldn't rely on it by any means.

I personally would cut from the stock or add filtration. Maybe upgrade something instead of adding another filter all together?

Overstocking can be done but it is a challenge, from what I've read.
Yeah, thats why i may just swap the tetras out for something smaller like celestial pearls.

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I love using AqAdvisor as a basis to refer to my bioload, but with this livestock list:
I wouldn't weigh much on what that site tells you.


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I wouldn't weigh much on what that site tells you.
Well i know it cant be on the dot accurate, but its nice for a general idea i guess. I mean they cant account for what we actually use within our filters and what not, but id rather not use the inch per gallon thing lol.

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Purigen works great but like the others said don't rely on it. I really like your scape on your tank btw. Not sure what I would do besides add more filtration if you are planning on stocking it to the max. I have discus so my filtration is always overboard lol. It works though and i have crystal clear water!
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I wouldn't worry about it. there are people on here that have more shrimp than that in 10 gallon tank and its fine. I wouldn't base my stocking on that website.


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hmmmm my 2 cents

take a 10 gallon tank and overstock it and filter it using a 50 gallon sump.

take a 50 gallon tank and stock it the same as above and filter it using a 10 gallon sump.

nitrogen cycle works the same in both situations so end product is nitrate. the same amount for both setups.
filters won't remove the nitrate--plants will and water changes will.

so, what would adding another filter do??
If you add a fine sponge prefilter on the intake of your filters that would probably trap a lot of debris and organic waste.
clean the prefilter daily or every couple days and that would remove a lot of the organics that will turn into nitrate.
-but, like water changes, it is only effective because you are removing something.

about the only real good, as far as water chemistry is concerned, that another filter will provide is increasing water volume-thereby diluting harmful substances.

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Points taken, and thanks for the compliment on my 20g. I may just add another AC20, that will be in the future though as i keep doubting that i will even add fish besides the otos.

I use a media bag on the intake of the canister, and a sponge on the ac20 already, i also plan to add more plants. i think i still have room. Just added floaters yesterday too. i love the look of roots dangling from the surface.

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