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Ok, I've bought a test kit and heres what I've got so far

pH 8.0
kH 14
gH 1 ????

I know my pH and kH are high, but why is my general hardness going at 1? Im doing the test right. I take 5 ml of water, put one drop and its suppose to be orange, when it turns green, the test is done. Well my first drop the water turns green. Is this normal? how can gH and kH be so different? Im confused

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Not likely, but certainly possible. High carbonates but low "hard" minerals. My gH is almost double of what my kH is, for example.

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What brand of test kit are you using? If its an AP test, you are sure that you arent switching chemicals? One (either kh or gh) will turn green and the other yellow when its done.
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yeah mine are reversed like that too.

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brand appears to be Aquarium Pharmaceuticals, Inc. Its call Freshwater Master Kit, that has the gH. I had to buy the kH separate, that one is the same brand though.

kH starts as blue and turns yellow. The gH starts at orange and turns green.

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so whats a fella to do about this, and yes we have a water softener

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Do you have a faucet that is not connected to the water softener?
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Usually the kitchen sink isn't hooked up to a softener; at least mine is not. With my soften water the GH = 1 and KH = 17, while my hardwater is 17, both KH and GH. So you have normal results.

Softwater isn't softer to the fish or plants, it still has alot of dissolved solids, only Na instead of Ca and Mg...which must be wierd for them b/c Na is more of a trace element in freshwater. Using "hardwater" is more natural.
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hmmm this is going to screw up my wonderful python water changer since my room is so far from my kitchen

I'll test my kitchen water, keep you guys posted

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Ok, my kitchen is the only one in the house with hard water, and thats only if I turn the water on cold. Should I be going out looking for a 100ft extension for my python for water changes, or what does this all mean?

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Well you can get the extension or use the WHITE garden type hoses. They normally come in 25" lengths and are found in the automotive/RV department.
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can someone explain why I need to go through this trouble to get harder water? so its more of a pH buffer?

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It's not that. Your softened water has a very high Sodium load that can really screw up your tank. You are much better off with the calcium and magnesium than the sodium.
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and the plants will grow much better with harder water?

should I just start doing my water changes with this harder water?

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