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Unhappy Cloudy water

Here are the facts:

Gh 16.85
Kh 6.74
Ph 6.2

Nitrite 1.0
Nitrate 0
Ammonia ??

My water is cloudy and is suffering from a bacterial bloom (most likely cycling). I'm planning on introducing more Purigen into my filter and some Bio-Spira. Any idea how to bring down my water Hardness (Gh??) I do not have the $$ for a RO/DI unit now, but eventually will get one. I doubt that there are any permanent solutions to this problem but just curious if anyone knows of something else that might help?


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oh, so apparently no one is going to help me with this problem huh? I have 200mL of Purigen, maybe I need some more but after 50% water change the next day cloudy as ever. Couldn't get my hands on any Bio-Spira. Here are the current H20 parameters:

Regular Tap (after 24hrs.)

Ph 7.8
Kh 180ppm
Gh 300ppm
Nitriate O
Nitrate 20ppm

Currently

Ph 6.8
Kh 120ppm
Gh 300ppm
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 0

Any ideas that don't require me running out and buying a UV filter?
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i told you! LEAVE IT ALONE! as far as the hardness problem, i am stumped.

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oh you are something! I've PM'd you...isn't it weird how I have 20ppm (1degree) nitrate coming out of the tap? Never had that in Baton Rouge...
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how long has the tank been up and running?? it should go away in a few weeks i would do some water changes. i had the same problem a few weeks ago with the clouldy water did a few water changes and once it was done cycling it was so clear and i wouldnt add any more Purigen i have the same amount in mine.
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Well this is week 2 I believe. I have been adding Seachem Stability for about 3 days now and I've got 4 more days to go. Exactly how cloudy did yours get? I mean it is cloudy, I can't even see the back of the tank or my plants! I've decided to just do a weekly 50% water change and leave it at that. The next day it goes right back to how it is anyway, so what is the point? I mean how long does it take to finish cycling! Ridiculous...
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What do you have in the tank as far as fish and plants? Doesn't AS cause ammonia issues for quite some time?
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no fish, packed w/plants...but i'm surprised that it lasts as long as it has....
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I mean how long does it take to finish cycling! Ridiculous...
3-4 weeks to answer your question. Also what substrate are you using? This is really important.

I JUST set up my 60gal tank Friday night. I expected the water to be cloudy because I did not rinse my substrate. I was told I should but really I don't have the facilities or the Time to run out and get supplies. I used Tahitian Moon Sand, its black as black can be. It clouded up the water quite a bit during planting. As you can see here. https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/ph...tml#post390255

Now, to rid the tank of the cloudiness I actually attached a coffee filter to the output of my cannister filter. If I wait 12 hours and remove it, the coffee filters are stained black by the crap aloft in the water column, its getting "clearer" but thats due to mechanical filtration methods. I have never been a fan of chemically treating water to clear it up. I'm in fact looking to see if I can find a Micron filter to clear it up with a quickness. But I hear the Vortex line of filters has gone down hill.

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If you have no fish, then you aren't cycling unless you are adding ammonia...
Cycling refers to the process of establishing bacteria that converts ammonia>nitrite>nitrate. No ammonia = no cycling.
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he's using ADA, so i know he has some ammonia in there. just too hard-headed to test for it.

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ROTFLOL!!! And you are so right! It has been so long since I've had to cycle a tank I forgot what it was like. But, fortunately I just found out that I can buy some BioSpira locally, thank god! So I hope that should cut that time down to a week. Steven Lo from www.aquaforestaquarium.com where I got my AS said that AS has a high organic content that has to be addressed in the first month, but thereafter is resolved. Dane, I thought you only had yours set up for a week or two? Needless to say I'm headed out to get me some BioSpira and that should fix this issue once and for all!

macclellan-my substrate, aquasoil provides plenty of ammonia, that's for sure!
RedIrocZ-28- I thought that the Vortex Freedom filter, since it is so small and portable, was a really good model. What news do you have about them? Has the manufacturer changed? I actually was going to get one this summer (along with a UV, Dane) but if the quality has went downhill I'd rather spend my $$ on another brand with a good history...


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I haven't had much luck with that product but a nice squeeze from a filter in another tank works great.
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Don't use a UV sterilizer now. You wil kill the bacteria that's swirling around in the water and slow down your cycle.
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Oh don't worry I won't, I was just making plans for this summer in terms of what equipment I'm planning on purchasing. Thanks Chrona...Oh CarolF if only you were here and I could get a quick squeeze from u, my problems would be solved! lol! But I'm headed to get some BioSpira so that should fix my problem...
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