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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 12-25-2003, 06:34 PM Thread Starter
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Has anyone used the KATI system, I've only found one for $180...anyone have a cheaper source?
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My tap comes out at-
pH: 7.4
gH: 15
kH: 12
I seriously want to start keeping Chocolate Gourami's and in the future Discus...and my parents aren't so happy with all the tanks I have so I dont think they'll let me install an RO system to our sink!
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I know its been said before, but wouldn't it be wiser to keep fish that have requirments closer to what comes out of your tap...

I think especialy those chocolate gourami's won't last long by you.

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And they are going to be happy about the Ion Exchange unit and the recharging of the modules? I agree with Nordic here. Why not keep fish that are more compatible with your water. At least until you move out of the house.
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Although you can't rear choco gourami or disucs,your tap suits for a planted tank

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But I seriously don't like keeping Rainbowfish...
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Tried Tanganjika's yet? very pretty varieties

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Why are people attempting to dissuade Raul from the keeping the fish he wants? He should be commended for seeking to provide the conditions his desired species prefer and in fact require. Chocolate gouramis would greatly appreciate softer water than what comes out of his tap, if not demand it. Raul, I'm sorry I don't have any advice to offer on water softeners, but I had to question why people are discouraging you from doing what you want to do.
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The advice we give are with the best intentions, trying to provide RO and things like that for someone living with his parents may not be financialy viable... (I know some are more fortunate).

So in th enot so long run we would rather not suggest to him to keep fishes that may not be at their happiest or best condition, which may in turn discourage him from this hobby...

Most of us long timers have at some stage closed down our tanks after loosing some prised fish havent we, or is that only me...

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The fishes might survive the tap water from your sink if they have already adapt to the hard,alkaline water you have.It is very risky also since if you lost your discus,it will burn your pockets out.

Nordic, everyone that keeps fish do lost prised fish,like me,lost a arowana that i have rear for almost 7 years..so you are not alone

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I have to agree with 2la on this one.
You guys bring up some really excellent points. "Why fight your water"? However part of the fun, at least for me, is keeping the plants and fish I want to keep. Settling for something you don't want stinks. I think waiting and saving to get the equipment needed to keep the fish one might want is a great thing!

My tap water has a pH of about 8.8 and a KH of 11 and GH of 15. It would be difficult to keep the plants and fish I have now if I didn't use an RO system. Difficult to the point of absolute frustration!

I don't like most cichlids. I would not want to keep them, even though my tap water is ideal for them. I like a planted aquarium! That is why I am here. If I could not grow plants, I would not have an aquarium at all!!

In my opinion, Raul should not settle. He is a young man, and at this point he may have to postpone his foray into Chocolate gouramis, but he should not give up on the thought of keeping them. See, in the long run he will actually be happier keeping the fish he wants to keep. The fish that pique his interest. The fish that will make him really enjoy the hobby we all enjoy so very much!!

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:mrgreen: just curious momo, how old are you? :mrgreen:

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...erm, like my parents told me...

"we know you're not gonna listen, but now at least you know why, when things go wrong"

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My goodness, this pooh-poohing is like nothing I would have expected in response to an intelligent and passionate young fishkeeper looking to provide the proper conditions for keeping the fish species he desires--much, MUCH better than the usual situation where someone is determined to keep species in inappropriate conditions but is dead-set against doing anything to improve those conditions! We've not yet established what the budget is nor how much work Raul is willing to undertake, and until I see evidence that either is inadequate to the task, I'm going to try my best to help him, not hinder him. Raul, take a look at these threads. I've not read them all the way through but on quick glance they look very informative. The second URL links to the first message in the thread; keep clicking on "Next by thread" to see more of the conversation. Good luck!

http://fins.actwin.com/aquatic-plant.../msg00271.html

http://fins.actwin.com/aquatic-plant.../msg00438.html
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