Originally Posted by DiabloCanine
My 2 cents worth. I hope you are testing your TDS with all the stuff you are putting in the water. Remember Discus are more sensitive to hardness than PH. Your TDS out of an RO/DI unit should be close to zero. I think it is more important to dose micros/macros than treat the water. If you want a balance between your Discus and plants here is a suggestion. Use your RO/DI (I do not think you need the DI portion, pouring money down the drain recharging it) water straight (as long as the KH is reasonable), dose PMDD from Greg Watson daily, check TDS daily, when TDS reaches your target amount stop dosing until after water change. Establish your target PH and use a monitor/controller. Establish your target TDS by dosing the PMDD daily and monitoring your Discus, when they show signs of stress, you back down to the TDS you had the day before. My target TDS is 250, I do not reach that because I dose with an Eheim Liquidoser that is set to dose in amounts that will never reach 250 before water change. I dose Seachem Excel and Tropica Master Grow after water changes. My plants are healthy and my Discus are happy. All the times my Discus were not acting right and I was doing a wtf, after checking the TDS it was high due to my dumb*** forgetting to do the water change on the right day. Did a water change and after the cold water tantrums subsided they were happy again. BTW, what kind of Disus u got? ......DC
I am not over 120 ppm TDS. I would pass out if it was over 200, am I going to be able to have live plants live? Thrive? if I continue to keep it under 120?
I understand what TDS is and my question before was sorta asking what I should and shouldnt add so my TDS isnt sky high. Right now my plants are living but not so well, hence my thoughts to "redo" what makes up my TDS. Adding the eco shouldnt hurt either, my substrate is plain jane Estes natural rock. You couldnt pay me to put a fertilizer stick in my tanks, some reason this substrate with the same ingredients? I will put in there right away....hmm..maybe the Discus picture on the bag..LOL.
So far Ive managed to grow some algae that resembles those spider webs that look like funnels and some really neat looking algae in the 90 that looks like the hair on my head it looks extremely healthy. The forum status is soo funny and I laugh because I really am an algae grower.
Dont get me wrong I have some live plants but I want them to GROW. I am lucky my red plants have survived so far. Ive only really grown out a few plants.
Check out my site it has pictures of my Discus, I have three strains...maybe a forth? Somedays he looks like all the other other days he looks solid. My first and true love is with Apistos....heck if you go WAY back it was an Oscar. If you have any pictures please let me know! I will be taking more pictures soon my new camera is uber and I have a macro lens shipped.
I just have this fear of what I am adding will harm the fish, I looked at PMDD and maybe I just dont understand it yet, heck its probably the same stuff I dump in now in liquid form. I am like really gunshy to add anything to the tanks at all. I really dont understand yet what the heck I am adding and why. Until then I dont think I will. I just have more reading to do.
My source water is 0ppm...I have dual sequencial DI canisters on my unit, its lasted three months so far without a recharge. I shake up the DI cartridges regularly to prevent channeling, purge the canisters of air and it seems to work well. The DI resin wasnt expensive at all compared to how long it lasts.
I am very confident and plan on pushing through this. I am also very patient.
So the only thing your dosing is those two products? I am hoping to do something like that, or PMDD after I learn more. For some reason I am OK with dosing something that comes in a nice bottle with a Discus picture on it.LOL.
Thank you for the advice!