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Question Fishless cycling parameters

ok... I'm about 2 weeks in. As of 2 days ago,ph is 7.0 , my ammonia is 0 mg/l , My nitrite has spiked to 3.3-33 mg/l (not sure where its at, but its a pretty ruby red) and my nitrates are sitting at 5.0 ppm. They aren't moving.

The current set up sit at this: regular gravel with a bed of flourite gravel underneath, no plants, no decoration yet. Heater is set @ 86 f. My filtration is Rena xP3 and an Hagen Aquaclear 110 with no air stones in a 75 gal.

Should I add plants right now to get things rolling along farther or let it sit and wait more? Add an airstone for now?
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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 03-12-2006, 06:45 PM
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You should have never done the FC to start with...........
See the slient cycle(search) on Rex's site and many others (Jared's etc).

This is a bad method in general. If you want bacteria, get them from an established tank(Sponge squeezings/dirt from the gravel vacuuming etc), add them to a new tank's gravel and filter.

Tank's now cycled.

No testing, no wait.
Few folks do not live near a LFS, a friend that has a tank, or don't have another tank or their own etc.

NH4 is a great way to cause algae, waste time seeing if the bacteria have colonized and spend your hobby testing rather than enjoying plants/fish.

You should never measure any NH4 in a planted tank, that's because the plants use up the NH4 as fast as it's produced.

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This method was sugested to me as an alternative to try. It had been a few years since I had a tank at all in the house.

So now, what do you suggest I do? If I went about this all wrong, please let me know the best way to correct the situation I've got going.

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I have never been a fan of FC'ing as well. Too many superior methods.

Best bet now is to just cycle the way mentioned above starting now. Find someone nearby that has a fully cycled tank. Hope they haven't changed their filter pad lately. Squeeze the filter pad into a bucket (more the merrier) and pour into your tank. If they use a canister filter, then dump all the water from the canister into the bucket as well.

It will look absolutely disgusting for about 24 hours in your tank, but I promise it is only helping the situation. Fish won't mind.

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Do i go ahead and add plants now then?
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Add lots of plants and a few fish. The plants will uptake the ammonia given off by the fish.
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Do i go ahead and add plants now then?

Read my Guide.
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Thanks. This will be my first planted tank. I'm sick of fake plants.

So, basically, I need to run to the store now and buy 15 bunches of fast growing stem plants? I ran into Petco to grab a full spectrum bulb for my African Grey and I saw that they were selling 4 in bamboo for in the tank. Is this a good or bad idea?
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I don't think bamboo sticks qualify as a true aquatic plant, so I guess that's a bad idea.
What you basicaly need to look for is any kind of hygros, anaccaris, rotala, water sprite, etc.
Most chain petstores around my area don't usually carry any of these so you might consider posting on the swap and shop section here. I am sure somebody will help you out .
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Oddly enough, the basic PetSmarts around here carry some of those plants. that and I've hit the 5 aquatics places in the area. So i did a 90% water change (I had to shim the bottom to even the tank) and added my plants. I got a Coralife T-5 Lighting system for freshwater as well as my other basic flouresant (spellings off.. its early, forgive me). I even picked up a basic aquatic plants book, just to make sure and give myself reference. I'm going to pick up my centerpiece of driftwood today. I looked all over town and selected one I like that would fit.

And until I can get it ordered, I'm using flourish for my plants.
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