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Ammonia above 6 ppm

Well, 4 different test quits have confirmed this. Unless that ADA aquasoil is causing it, I do not know what it is. Currently this tank is housing a molly and around 15 Cherry red shrimp. I would have thought this would be lethal for them, but I counted all of them.

The substrate is a mix of ADA aquasoil and Soilmaster.
Not even water changes have helped with the ammonia levels.
There is some driftwood thatg has been in another tank.

Any help, advice appreciated. Has anyone experienced something similar?

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I just learned that my municipal water supply had ammonia added as a disinfectant. I wouldn't have believed it unless I had seen a city memorandum about an upcoming shift to chloramine addition. Maybe it isn't coming from your tank.
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I used almost double seachem prime and still a reading ammonia.
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Have you tested your tap water to check that possibility (I thought I'd heard it all when I read on another thread they might add lye to water to "protect our pipes .) How big is your tank? Can you get hold of a large amount of bottled/distilled water to do at least a partial change to see if that affects it?

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ada aquasoild does have ammonia in it. At aqua forest in SF they recommend not putting in any fish for 3-4 weeks because of that. They also recommend changing as much water as ofter as possible. Several times a week at least.


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Thats is good to know...it would be helpful if it says it in the bag. I am still puzzled why the cherry red are still alive and I just spotted one carrying eggs.

So this mean that even if you have a highly planted tank, it will still show ammonia?

The ammount of aquasoil is very small...less than 1/4 of a 9L bag.

Inert gravel for me next time I setup a shrimp tank.

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hmm, not sure if that little aquasoil would cause that though, how big is the tank. At aqua forest they said for the first couple of weeks to change the water quite a bit. I'm not sure if any ammonia would be present in the long term. I haven't ever really tested my tanks, haha.


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It is a 75G tank.

Will ammonium be harmful to fish?
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I found an answer to one of my questions: Ammonium is not harmful to tropical fish but ammonia is.

It might be ammonium that I am reading...
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Are you sure someone didn't "top shelf" you tank?


I'm not serious but it would explain the readings. heheh.

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Is you ammonia test kit one reagent or two (nessler test or salicilate test)?
what's your PH?

Ammonium and ammonia exist together in equilibrium, the equilibrium will shift with your PH. Lower PH means more ammonium, which is much less harmful. Higher PH means much more Ammonia, which is extremely toxic.

The prime will detox the ammonia somewhat and I recommend you continue to use it at recommended levels, but if you are using the nessler reagent test (which is a single reagent and the color chart for results runs from white to orange) it will not show any change when adding prime, the test is just not sophisticated enough. A salicilate test kit has two reagents and the color chart runs from Yellow to dark green. That test kit will register the drop in ammonia when you add prime.
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I am using the two regents test kit.
Do you recommend adding more seachem prime?

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