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Cloudy tank?

The tank is set up for a week with plants but no fish yet, it's been good but today it is a little cloudy, nothing added to the tank except the flourish iron and flourish this morning, could that be it?, or just over fertlizing makes the tank cloudy?
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Adding anything to start the cycle? I would suspect this is your basic bacterial bloom stage of the cycling process, with the small amount of info provided.
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It could be, it's been a while since i cycled a tank, i just thought cycling a planted tank will not cause cloudiness since plants actually clear up the water, hey, i'm a newbie, what do i know?
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Well, a heavily planted, high light, CO2 injected tank won't cycle the 'normal way'...you'll likely never see a speck of ammonia, so nitrites will never get terribly high.
Plants will use ammonia, and nitrate for food, but not nitrite. Since they soak up most of the ammonia, not much can convert to nitrite.

But in a lower light tank, especially one without lots of CO2 to keep plants going full force, you end up with a normal cycling process.

Rex's homepage has some good info on how to setup a 'high tech' planted tank taht doesn't need traditional cycling.
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Will check it out, thanks
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nothing added to the tank except the flourish iron and flourish this morning, could that be it?,
Yes.

Adding Flourish always slightly clouds my water for two or three days. It is not a milky or visible particulate cloudiness, but more of a smoky, grayish haze. Nothing to be concerned with.

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I dosed the flourish and iron again today and right away it has that cloudy look, what can i do to fix this?
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I dosed the flourish and iron again today and right away it has that cloudy look, what can i do to fix this?
How much are you adding? I see cloudiness only when I add a capful or more. Also, you added some about two days ago -- how frequently are you doing that?

I did a partial water change yesterday and instead of adding the Flourish directly to the tank, I added it to the container I was using to fill the tank with, before adding water. It got mixed really well from the faucet water, and the the tank's cloudiness was not as noticeable, and is almost gone.

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I'm dosing 5ml every other day, maybe i should dose a little less, or dose 2-1/2ml daily instead of 5ml every other day, i'll give this a try and see what happens.
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I'm dosing 5ml every other day, maybe i should dose a little less, or dose 2-1/2ml daily instead of 5ml every other day, i'll give this a try and see what happens.
How big is the tank? How heavily planted?

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Tank is 20g, 9 days old, not heavily planted but got pretty good amount of plants, i should just cut the flourish in half, 5ml is the recommended for this size tank though, the cloudiness goes away at the end of the day.
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Tank is young, be patient, stay on the recommended dosing for a 20g
1/4 KN03
1/16 KH2P04
5ml trace
all 3x aweek, lay off Iron until tank is stable do the weekly H20 changes, did I mention patience?!

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Adding 1/8th tsp KH2PO4 twice a week on a 55 gallon clouded my tank up. I did a massive water change, only dosed KNO3 and after 3 days my tank was still clear. When before it was so cloudy I couldn't see the back of the tank after 2/3 days.
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Tom Barr is recommending Tropica Master Grow (TMG) instead of Flourish because Flourish precipitates out of solution and TMG does not. If this cloudiness is precipitate, then it's not feeding the plants anything is it?

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Using flourish seems to be okay with a lot of people, maybe too much at a time cause cloudiness, this is the only thing that causes my tank cloudy though.
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