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PH in a pressurized CO2/T5HO/ferts tank

This may be a dumb question but, my ph is low in the 20 gallon I'm assuming because of the CO2 injection. How would I raise the ph? lower the CO2? I did a 50% water change yesturday. I'm not sure if I do another small water change if it will shock the bacteria in the tank and cause a mini cycle...any suggestions?

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I wouldn't worry too much about the pH drop that is due to CO2 injection. Trying to adjust the pH with chemicals will just do more harm than good.

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Thanks I really want the PFR's to breed so I was worrying about the drop.

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Mine does the same in my 75 gallon so I place some crushed coral in my filter which makes the ph around 6.8 , without its at 5.8-6.0 .
The problem is good bacteria will not thrive in 6.0 or less, so whilst the bad bacteria contines to multiply, your good bacteria stays dormant .

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PFR?

I make sure the mineral level (GH) is right for the livestock.
Then set the KH not too far off that.
Let the pH do what it wants.

Nitrifying bacteria is pretty resilient to changes such as the changing pH when you do a water change. They thrive best in hard, alkaline water, but will do just fine down to GH and KH about 3 degrees. Softer than that there is the chance that the carbonates will run out. Plants or the bacteria themselves may use up the carbonates. If you stay on top of it and simply make sure the GH and KH never hit zero the fish, plants and bacteria will be fine.
The fish need stable mineral levels, not so much pH. They do not mind the pH swings that happen when CO2 is added. Keep the GH in the right range for the fish.
Plants need the calcium and magnesium that we test as GH. Make sure it does not run out. Some plants can use carbonates as a source of carbon, but they only do this when the CO2 runs out, and they do not switch over instantly to that method. In a CO2 injected tank I do not think the plants would use the carbonates. As long as there are enough carbonates for the bacteria I would not worry about it.

It used to be thought the KH had to stay above 3 German degrees of hardness to keep the pH stable. Maybe that is a good number to aim for, and see what happens. Many people are finding their tanks do just fine with 1-2 dKH.
Stable is not rock steady at one value 24/7.
Stable is a not extreme change in value that (in the case of pH) follows a daily cycle.
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Painted Fire Red cherry shrimp What is the easiest way to test KH and GH? I know people have spoken about it on other threads, but I never asked about it.

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The easy way to test GH and KH is with a GH and KH test kit. I assume that was what you were looking for?

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Yes the kit was what I didnt know existed. Cool! Thanks for the info.

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