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cloudy water for year???????

I've had my 135g freshwater tank for a year now. It has never had clear water. Someone please help me out! I have two fluval 404, I've tried several diff light situations, carbon - then no carbon; plants, and every clear water chemical made, 40% water changes every day for week. Please help
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Have you tried a diatom filter? I use a magnum HOT every once in awhile. Makes my water crystal.
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man I've tried everything, nothing seems to work
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But have you tried a diatom filter? They always work. Unless your glass is cloudy.

We really need more details about the tank.

How much light?
What color temp bulbs?
How long are the lights on?
Dosing schedule?
Water changes? How often? How much?
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have you tried quilt batting in the filter?


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It sounds to me like a bacterial problem which is the most common cloudy water culprit.
What do you have for fish, how often do you feed and with what is what I would be looking into. Also well water can contain properties that cloud...is it well or city water.

No matter...I guarantee you have never tried a Diatom Filter or we would not be having this conversation.
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No - I have not tried a diatom filter. Other than obvious small particles; It looks like just white cloudy water? I have tried a multitude of filter, floss, cotton etc...

Right now I have dropped back to 4 - 30w 9325k total 120w.

I have got a custom to changing 15 - 40% water every 3-4 days.

I have city water. I have regular plants.

Fish: Angels,loaches,shark,tetras,swords/mollies,etc. approx. 120 inches worth.

Two fluval 404, small rock substrate, driftwood, airstone.

Basically, I have exactly what I had in my ole 55g tank with the exception that it remained crystal clear.


I can NOT figure out WHY this tank want clear up. please help
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How are you fertilizing and what are your water parameters?

30g planted with cories, white clouds, Harlequin Rasboras ,ottos.
10g planted with glowlight tetras and an otto.
Outdoor pond with one common goldfish and comets.
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one person will tell me that my tank hasn't cycled, another said I don't have enough biological filtration, one says its a mechanical filteration problem.
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Planted tanks have plenty of biological filtration. Also planted tanks don't always go though a traditional cycle.

Standard mechanical filtration is not able to remove cloudiness from the water. Hence the suggestion to use a diatom filter which can remove particles as small as a micron.

But you really need to find out why the tank has been cloudy for so long.
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Stop changing your water so often and let the tank stabilize.
Too frequent water changes may not be helping. There is a stage of green water that can have a haze but I am still leaning towards bacterial. Keep your filters clean but do not clean them both at the same time. If you are cleaning both at the same time then the tank will not stablize efficiently either. Do you have good water circulation throughout the tank ? Water that isnt moving , even gently , can cause this to happen as well.

Hazy water can be troublesome but the tank will often work its way through it if let alone. Changing water too often can sometimes keep it going longer. Its a large tank so your plants should take care of any bad buildups that may occur in say a non-planted tank if you skip some water changes. Just top off the tank for a couple weeks keeping an eye on the fish and I think you will see a difference.

Ideally though... LOL
A diatom filter can remove bacteria , waterborn algae and even Ich out of tank water, see if your local petshops might rent them by the day... some do.

Then you would have sparkling water in days....but if not... try letting the tank stabilize, sometimes by doing less we are doing more.
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thanks, I'llmtry it
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I think Buck has mentioned the problem. GREEN WATER. Even though the water is not really green, the algae that does make the water green will give water a cloudy tint to the water.

Try this before spending $$$ on a diatom filter. Do a 3-4 day blackout. Cover the tank with towels or anythin you have to block out the light for a few days. Keep the lights off of course.


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Or, if you really want to be radical, catch a few fresh water mussels from a local pond and put them in your tank. In a few days they will probably clear it. Then let them go.

Of course, that doesn't address the cause of the cloudiness.

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anyone try a bamboo/wood shrimp? i would presume they do great for green water type scenarios
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