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Is Flourish "Plant Pack Fundamentals" enough for beginners?

I recently started a 6 gallon planted cube tank with medium intensity LED light?

I'm going to add 1-2 inches of Eco Complete and I'm adding Java Moss, Java Fern, Anubias Bartei Nana, Anacharis, Dwarf Sag and Water Wisteria. Fish will include Beta, a few other small fish, and some dwarf shrimp.

Is the Flourish "Plant Pack Fundamentals" enough for fertilizer WITHOUT using CO2 or other fertilizers/supplements? I'm open to other recommendations.

The Plant Pack Fundamentals includes....
Flourish
Flourish Iron
Flourish Excel

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Hi duganderson,

When I started out I used Flourish and Excel. They made it easy for me to dose the tank and I learned to adjust my photoperiod to minimize algae. Extra Iron occasionally helps if my plants showed signs of deficiency. Here is what you can do with Flourish.


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Ecocomplete is inert, and has little if at all nutrients in it. what you listed just are micro nutrients, iron, which is a non essential, and excel, which is a co2 alternative. You have no macro nutrients, which form the basis of plant growth. Correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe the guy above me is referring to flourish comprehensive, which is all three macro nutrients under the flourish name, used in conjunction. Either way, you'll get WAY better growth if you invest in some macro nutrients as well. If you're on a budget, skip the iron, and some would say, even the excel. i'd message user Nilocg, he can get you enough dry fertilizer to last you for a very very long time.

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The Flourish Plant Pack contains Flourish Comprehensive, Flourish Iron, and Flourish Excel.

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Flourish comprehensive is just micros with very little, non substantial amounts of macros. I say with that setup that the op has, you can get away with using a couple of root tabs.
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Hi all,

Actually, Flourish Comprehensive is exactly that....Comprehensive. It contains both macros and micros (more than Osmocote Plus) in a balanced formula . If you have used it you would know that the results speak for themselves. The only time I found that I had problems with deficiencies when using Flourish Comprehensive was due to my very soft water and lack of Ca and Mg. Possibly in a high light tank (3-4 wpg w/CO2) the 'standard' dosage would be insufficient but the dosage can be increased to compensate for high light environments. Why change to something else, typically the answer is cost. When my number of tanks increased, along with my gallon volume, I looked for more economical methods to 'feed' my plants but I still use Flourish Comprehensive several times a week to augment my EI dosing because it has more micros than CSM+B.

In a medium light, no CO2 application Flourish Comprehensive will work fine; it is great for beginners trying to learn the basics of planted aquariums.

Here is a list of Flourish ingredients, note the first 3 are macros.
Total Nitrogen - 0.07%
Available Phosphate ( P2O5) - 0.01%
Soluble Potash - 0.37%
Calcium (Ca) - 0.14%
Magnesium (Mg) - 0.11%
Sulfur (S) - 0.2773%
Boron (B) - 0.009%
Chlorine (Cl) - 1.15%
Cobalt (Co) - 0.0004%
Copper (Cu) - 0.0001%
Iron (Fe) - 0.32%
Manganese (Mn) - 0.0118%
Molybdenum (Mo) - 0.0009%
Sodium (Na) - 0.13%
Zinc (Zn) - 0.0007%

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