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Dosing Schedule

I've found multiple threads on dosing, but was hoping I could get some
reassurance that I'm doing it right. I've read that the fish load and amount
of plants have an impact on the dosing, but I'm not sure where I fall on the
scale. I'm wondering if I have a low, medium, or high stocking of plants.

I have 7 discus and about 30 smaller fish. They get fed worms in the morning
and tetra bits at night. I also have been having a problem with what looks
like hair algae. From what I've read this is normal for a newly planted tank.
The tank has been established for over a year and I have just planted the
tank a few weeks ago.

All of my other information is listed in my signature below, except the reactor is not the ab 1000 yet.

My water parameters are:

ph-6.9 to 7.0
nitrite-0
nitrate- 5 to 10
ammonia-0
phosphate-10+(that's as high as the test goes)
kh-7
gh-12
co2- 21 to 26

Schedule as follows:
Mon-CSM+B(10ml),Fe(1ml)
Tue-KN03(1/2tsp),KH2P04(1/4tsp),K2S04(1/4tsp),
Wed-CSM+B(10ml),Fe(1ml)
Thur-KN03(1/2tsp),KH2P04(1/4tsp),K2S04(1/4tsp),
Fri-CSM+B(10ml),Fe(1ml)
Sat-
Sun-KN03(1/2tsp),KH2P04(1/4tsp),K2S04(1/4tsp),50% water change

Thanks in advance for your help. I really want to get this right so I don't kill
the fish. Its been a long road learning about aquariums/discus and I would
like it if I didn't kill anymore of my discus.

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You're Phosphates are way high 10+? should be around 2 is a good spot, 1/16- 1/8 tsp KH2P04
What is the P04 of the source water?
You're link does not work, and when I edit it to work, it will not let me in.. hehe
Need to see a picture of the tank, as to how many plants you have, dosing like you are, there should be alot, ALOT of plants in the tank.
If not the AB reactor as in the sig, then what mean's are you using?
How is the tank/plant's over all health?

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I fixed the thread so there is a picture. The tap water is .5-.1 for the phosphates. I don't know where the phosphates are coming from, I haven't started the dosing schedule yet. The reactor is a 200 w/rio pump, I'm working on getting an inline reactor.
The plants look great, other than the hair algea which I think is going away since I started the co2 last week. They seem to be growing a lot, but I'm new to this so I might be missing something. Thanks for your help.
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Feeding your 7 discus+30 smaller fish twice a day is giving you 10+ phosphate reading. I will also go as far as saying that your tank is overstocked. I'd probably stick just with the discus and few cleaner fish (otos, SAE) in your type of setup. For now I suggest using phosphate remover in your filter to bring phosphates down and avoid algae outbreak.
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perhaps I missed it, but what size is the tank?

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Its a 72 gallon bowfront. I wanted to clarify what types the 30 smaller fish are:

6 rasboras
11 rummy nose
6 sarpaes
1 glowlight
3 oticinclus
3 paracinclus

From what I've been told you can stock many fish as long as you keep up with the water changes so the water quality is ok. I used to change the water every 3 days, but since adding the plants the nitrates have stayed down and I've been changing it once a week. Thanks for the advice though, I like to hear from everyone.

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So anyone have any suggestions? I'm thinking I can lower the phosphates by changing the water more often and feeding less at a time so there isn't any waste on the bottom of the tank.

Any thoughts on if my dosing schedule sounds right? If not how should I change it? Any advice is greatly appreciated, I'm waiting to start the fertilizers until I can get some reassurance that I'm doing the right thing.

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OMG, that tank and those fish are so beautiful. I want, I want. Is it as hard as they say it is to care for discus.

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How comes shoppings so stupid, looks at all this stuff I haves, what do I do's with it.
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Dosing schedule looks fine to me, but you may want to hold off KH2PO4 untill you get your phosphates under control.
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Another question regarding the phosphates. When I planted the hairgrass I planted it with the potting wool, could this be contributing to the elevated phostphates?

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I wouldn't go so far as to say amount of fish doesn't matter - *they* can feel overcrowded and take it out on each other. But I can understand - my 75 was previously set up with close to a dozen angels, 4-5 dozen assorted tetras (black skirts, pristellas, lemon, a black neon or two and a cardinal), 4 clown loaches, and a rainbow shark. Problem with an overcrowded tank is when things go bad, they go very bad. By the time I emptied the tank, I had maybe a dozen fish left. One of my kids so helpfully finished them off for me by playing in the q/t tank using a detergent scoop.

It is beautiful. I must tell you this though; that pretty green and white striped plant near the middle? It's a dracaena and will die. It looks like you might have gotten suckered into a peace lily too :/ (like to find these turkeys who keep packaging houseplants for aquariums and smack them silly)

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It's possible that the rockwool could be contributing to the phosphate problem. But you do need to get them down.

Don't get hung up on the schedule as much as just keeping the levels in the correct ranges.
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