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100% epsom salts

sorry for not searching.. but i cant remember the name of the person who wrote the details on dosing, ive baught some mgso4 epsom salts, there 100% so i need to figure out how much to add to 500ml of water.
does anyone have the link?

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are epsom salt a real nessecity to dose? Because I am not dosing them, should I be? If so how often?
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only need it if you have low GH(Mg and Ca).


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ok good, my water is rock hard
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like how hard? my water is 12 dgh?

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oh, thats soft compared to the water here. I talking about needing lotion when I get out of the shower... hard
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ok how do you determine if your water is hard??
my

Kh is 3

Gh is 8


Which one of those contains calcium and Magnese?? i m betting on Gh
So Gh defines hard and soft water??
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GH is the amount of dissolved calcium and magnesium, a GH of 8 aint that bad really.

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ok how do you determine if your water is hard??
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Classification        CaCO3               GH
Very Soft             0-70 ppm          0-4
Soft                    71-140 ppm       5-8
Medium Hard         141-320 ppm     9-18
Hard                    >321 ppm         >18

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Thanks you Stu and Compulsion for clearing things up for me
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what i still dont know is what classification you would be in to need to dose mgso4? anyone ?
12 is about 200ppm CaCO3

according to a document on thekrib.com, the calcium and magnesium are of a 3-1 ratio. i just thought ide include that

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what i still dont know is what classification you would be in to need to dose mgso4? anyone ?
It depends.
Most plants like some hardness in the water, but some thrive and need very hard water, like Vallis.
All sources describing Magnesium use as a nutrient say that soft water might need an additional Mg supply. GH 12 is not "soft".

I would say, no, you probably wont need Mg suppliment with GH 12 but then it depends on other factors..... for example, if you had intense light/2/all other macros & micros and didn't change water regularly, this might strip out the Mg from the water over time if you have plants that require large ammounts.
Regular water changes will probably supply all needed Mg with GH 12.

Here's the signs of defficiency just for reference (be aware that Mg defficiency prevents a plant from properly using iron, so symptoms appear the similar)...
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Yellow spots on old leaves.
Symptoms do not appear until the deficiency is well established. The plant will be stunted. Leaf veins will stay
green while the remainder of the leaf turns yellow. Brown spots will appear and the plant will dry out. Flowers will be slow to develop, if at all. Flowers that do grow will be lackluster.

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