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Why is it so impossible to open a bottle of Flourish Excel?

This annoys me so much. That "push down and turn" bottle cap is SO frustrating. Sometimes it takes me 10 minutes and a hurting hand just to open the bottle because it refuses to open for my first 100 tries, then one time it just works. I hate this bottle. Anything that takes more than 1 minute to open really pisses me off. Ugh.
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HAHAHA, I know what you mean...
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If you think that's fun you should try opening one that's developed a pinhole leak.
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Just find a similar bottle the same ml size and of course a better cap. Then just pour the amount of Excel you have into the other bottle. I use a squeeze bottle used for mustard, etc. It's a lot easier with those. Be sure to find one with a nice medium hole on top that don't add pressure when squeezing.

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Hahaha!

I remember bringing home that first bottle and thinking the cap was defective.


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Weird. The bottle I have is a regular twist off.
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I've seen both varieties

I am curious why they want child proof caps on excel, but not their other products...


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Excel is deadly toxic! It needs a child safety cap if there are any children anywhere near it. Used as directed it is probably safe enough, but it isn't something to play with safely.

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Then why is it I have seen it sold with regular old twist off caps as well? Was that some antique bottle I bought by mistake?

And I would think some of the other seachem products would also be deadly toxic...


But Excel smells really good... so I could see a kid thinkin about takin the plunge...


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Then why is it I have seen it sold with regular old twist off caps as well? Was that some antique bottle I bought by mistake?

And I would think some of the other seachem products would also be deadly toxic...


But Excel smells really good... so I could see a kid thinkin about takin the plunge...
Don't be huffing the excel. The active ingredient in excel causes occupational asthma due to the vapors. Albeit this is usually because it is in aeresolized spray, but I wouldn't screw around with it.

The older bottles do not have child lock lids, which means they are likely much less effective at this point as excel breaks down over time.

Keep this crap out of reach of your kids.
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Best to skip excel all together and get CO2. It's not that effective but pretty good at killing algae.


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Best to skip excel all together and get CO2. It's not that effective but pretty good at killing algae.
Agreed. I only use it now for algae recovery.
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Best to skip excel all together and get CO2. It's not that effective but pretty good at killing algae.
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Agreed. I only use it now for algae recovery.
Hey, Hey now...I beg to differ. I've got several tanks that grow like wild fire with glutaraldehyde as their only source of CO2.


I hate the Excel bottle too. I use it to hold my Cidex and it's definitely a PITA. One day I'll get another bottle. Excel is such a ripoff I see reusing the bottle as a way to get my money's worth!


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When you one day look in the mirror and see horns sprouting in front of your ears, and blue streaks across your forehead, plus pure white hair, don't say we didn't warn you that Excel is toxic.

Seriously, just because something has never given you a problem is not a reason to doubt the warnings about it. Excel is in a different category than anything else Seachem sells for planted tanks, as far as potential toxicity is concerned.

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Hey, Hey now...I beg to differ. I've got several tanks that grow like wild fire with glutaraldehyde as their only source of CO2.
It doesn't offer CO2 but a carbon type molecule supposedly mimics the 'dark' reaction carbon molecule. Theoretically if you feed excel, you don't even need the lights to be on

Has anyone tried this?


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