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Protein Film? or bacteria?

The thread below this isn't quite close enough o answer my question

Hey guys, my newly planted nano (GLA 12x12x12) has been getting liquid Seachem ferts, (starting dry ferts today), injected co2 and uses two 12 watt each 12,000k Truelumen LED lights I had to leave my house for 2 days for work and came back to find a white film. It is easy to break up and floats on the surface. trying to get a picture in. Anyways anyone have any tips
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like mollies? they will get rid of it.
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I have a mollie in a tank i could put in there i guess but just a bit worried 'bout the shrimp that are berried , do you know what causes it at all?. thanks for the tip though.
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no, I couldn't figure it out either...I do have an open topped tank, too, so it was really visible. but the mollies sure did the trick, and quick.
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awesome I'll try it! Thanks man.
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http://www.javamoss.info/2011/02/02/...iron-bacteria/

Doesn't really go over what conditions cause it though. I did have it in my tank, and eventually it passed.


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I just recently started noticing this in my tank but not as much. I have changed 2 things since I started noticing it.

1. Started feeding frozen brine and misys shrimp to the fish.
2. Started injecting CO2

If I remember correctly from other threads, g33tar just started running CO2 not that long ago as well. I wonder if this film started before or after the addition of CO2 on his setup.

Just a thought.

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It's a natural by product of a living system, no worries.

If you look at it under a microscope, it's organic matter, bacteria and protozoans.

Your shrimps would love to eat that too.


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You could also try increasing surface movement and current. I get it in my 10 gallon because my filter is in a weird place and my floating plants stop the surface agitation, so I need to make sure I always reduce the number of floating plants when there get to be too many.

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It's a natural by product of a living system, no worries.

If you look at it under a microscope, it's organic matter, bacteria and protozoans.

Your shrimps would love to eat that too.
Thanks, I figured is was bacteria!

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You could also try increasing surface movement and current. I get it in my 10 gallon because my filter is in a weird place and my floating plants stop the surface agitation, so I need to make sure I always reduce the number of floating plants when there get to be too many.
Yeah it seemed to be disrupted when i raised my Lily pipe. thanks
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I hate this stuff! I couldn't do anything to get rid of it, I had a 425gph powerhead at the surface but it did nothing. I finally had to get a surface skimmer on my tank because I couldn't stand it anymore


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"Protein Film? or bacteria?"

Bacteria make bio-film out of protein so it can be both.

I was having trouble with something like this and it stopped around the time I started using Excel, don't know if it was a coincidence.
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surface agitation will also work
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I had the same problem, protein film to form and wouldn't go away despite surface agitation (and quite a bit). I finally bought a surface skimmer, and the protein is gone. I had had the skimmer for a month and a half, I've had crystal clear water on my open top tank ever since! If you have an open top tank, you MUST get one, probably my one of my favorite purchases, besides my ADA tank and Hydor canister filter. http://www.google.com/products/catal...d=0CB8Q8gIwAA#
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