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Color Deficient and cant tell nitrates, HELP!

Hey everyone, can someone tell me
my nitrate level? To me it looks to be between 5 and 10 but I have color deficiency and cant distinguish shades of color apart..Normally I rely on my wife but she isn't here right now.. It's a hard knock life for me lol
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It looks to me like its between 20-40 ppm.


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It looks to me like its between 20-40 ppm.
Do you think this is to much for neon tetras to handle in a planted tank? I have 5 Amazon swords a bunch of dwarf hair grass and two anubias or should I do a 25% water change?

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I'd also test a sample that was 50% tank and 50% bottled water like aquafina.
Once red is present it's really hard to tell.
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Neon tetras are endemic to waters that are soft, acidic, with little dissolved organics; so, yes, I would do a water change.

I would let 20 ppm be my guide to when to do a water change or just do weekly water changes of at least 25% and see where you are each week and adjust frequency and volume from there.


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Neon tetras are endemic to waters that are soft, acidic, with little dissolved organics; so, yes, I would do a water change.

I would let 20 ppm be my guide to when to do a water change or just do weekly water changes of at least 25% and see where you are each week and adjust frequency and volume from there.

I appreciate the feedback, this is my first planted tank and still learning. I've read a lot of mixed things about nitrates being between 20-40ppm as the target to shoot for but I guess it's tank specific for what should be your guide.

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I appreciate the feedback, this is my first planted tank and still learning. I've read a lot of mixed things about nitrates being between 20-40ppm as the target to shoot for but I guess it's tank specific for what should be your guide.
I think it has a lot to do (with higher nitrate levels- above 20 ppm) with if you are high-tech or low-tech. Not sure if you are high or low tech? In low-tech set-ups where growth is slower your plants dont take up organics in the water as quickly and efficiently as in high tech set-ups with rapid growing stem plants.

Personally, in my low-tech aquariums, I never let my nitrates get above 15 ppm for long-term health of my fish. But, all my fish are South American/African Congo River or tributaries of- with soft, acidic waters of low dissolved organics.


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That looks much like my test results for my 40 gallon. To me, being colorblind like you, it looks like about 10-20ppm, but my wife disagrees and she says it's closer to 40 or even more.
At any rate, it never hurts to do an extra water change.
Do a 40 or 50% change and check post the results.
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Id say 40ppm+. Do like Maryland guppy says and dilute with nitrate free water 50% and post that test for us to look at. Heck even do 3part pure water to 1 part tank water.
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I appreciate the feedback, this is my first planted tank and still learning. I've read a lot of mixed things about nitrates being between 20-40ppm as the target to shoot for but I guess it's tank specific for what should be your guide.
I think it has a lot to do (with higher nitrate levels- above 20 ppm) with if you are high-tech or low-tech. Not sure if you are high or low tech? In low-tech set-ups where growth is slower your plants dont take up organics in the water as quickly and efficiently as in high tech set-ups with rapid growing stem plants.

Personally, in my low-tech aquariums, I never let my nitrates get above 15 ppm for long-term health of my fish. But, all my fish are South American/African Congo River or tributaries of- with soft, acidic waters of low dissolved organics.

I have a low tech tank and opted to not does Seachem Excel too.

It's only 2 weeks old and I was dosing daily the first week and did a 50% change and now dosing macro and micros every few days per the directions on the bottle. I tripled my potassium dose though because my plants show signs of potassium deficiency and I read that Anubias really loves potassium.

All products I dose are:
Seachem Flourish
Seachem Floruish Advanced
Phosphorus
Nitrogen
Potassium
Iron

Just did a 25% water change, waited about 30 minutes and did another Nitrate test. What do you guys say it looks like now? Looks like 10-20 to me.
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Just did a 25% water change, waited about 30 minutes and did another Nitrate test. What do you guys say it looks like now? Looks like 10-20 to me.
Pretty red mate, I'd say close to 40 still.
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You need to calibrate the testing procedure.
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FWIW I'd do a 50% tomorrow and a 50% WC the following day.
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This thread illustrates why I hate those test kits. So far the responses to the color shown have been anywhere from 10 to 40+.

The "10-40" nitrates should be fine for your Neons. There's a difference between achieving those levels through dosing as opposed to what would occur from naturally decomposing organics.
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This thread illustrates why I hate those test kits. So far the responses to the color shown have been anywhere from 10 to 40+.

The "10-40" nitrates should be fine for your Neons. There's a difference between achieving those levels through dosing as opposed to what would occur from naturally decomposing organics.
Could you explain the difference? I was unaware there were differences in the composition of nitrates depending on its source (i.e. from dosing fertilizers as opposed to naturally decomposing organics.)

So, your saying, because the nitrates are from ferts, they are rendered more safe than from decomposing organics?

Fascinating stuff.


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