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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 07-01-2019, 06:36 PM Thread Starter
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Does anyone urinate in their tank? If so, do you get algae?

From what I'm reading, urine is nature's fertilizer. It contains all of the macros plants need and in forms they like.

Is there a reason we don't leverage this in planted tanks today, besides the gross factor?

For people that are doing this, how much urine is safe to put in your tank?
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...For people that are doing this, how much urine is safe to put in your tank?
I would do this as a survey.
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lol What a thread! I hope this goes somewhere.


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I for one vote that I do not currently urinate in my tank, but if I did I'd wonder if morning pee is better or worse for the plants.
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Gross.

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30 g. low-tech African Biotope
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I don't know where this going?

Let it be known I have told someone their tank looks like a urinal in the past.
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I for one vote that I do not currently urinate in my tank, but if I did I'd wonder if morning pee is better or worse for the plants.
It wasn't the pee that was so bad, It was the urinal cake I threw in!!!!!
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I never have but have always assumed that the fish do.

Nothing good happens fast in an ecosystem.
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Will this too become the never ending thread similar to EI killing my plants?

Blue urinal mints are the best!
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Someone needs to set you boys up with a chatroom so you can discuss all those bodily functions you find funny no matter how much grey you have in your hair.

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Someone needs to set you boys up with a chatroom so you can discuss all those bodily functions you find funny no matter how much grey you have in your hair.
I totally have a full grey beard that does not match my not so grey hair, go figure!

I'm not sure where this urinating in an aquarium idea has come from.
Yeah, I've had a bit of fun with it, but really??? Fun is over, what's up?
Maybe @Ddrizzle can shed some light on this, I've never heard of such.

If it was Vodka dosing, HCl, etc... I would understand, but urine???
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I was thinking this could be Barr's next grand experiment
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Thankfully, I have never been so hard pressed for ferts that I urinated in my tank.

This topic comes up fairly often especially with those that are fairly new to dosing fertilizers. The consensus typically is you can, and are welcome to do so, but your urine also contains a lot of waste (heavy metals, bromine, artificial crap) that isn't beneficial to your plants and/or fish. Since we are attempting to control our own ecosystem to our own design, why would we throw such an unknown into it and throw the whole thing off intentionally?

I do know of more than a few old men who had gardens swore by their secret "natural" fertilizer. They would bottle it for a year or so (by the gallon) and then use it after it "aged" on their garden plants and flowers. I am ashamed to say...this works. The person I learned about it from had the biggest, raspberries in the whole neighborhood. He used it like Miracle-Grow liquid fertilizer. (ironically, he said female urine was no good).

Anecdotally, When I moved into my current house, I had a small black-cap plant (24" tall stems, no berries, about 3"-4" in diameter) that didn't do anything for 3 years. I was going to tear it out, but I decided that I should urinate on it every day after I got home from work. I did this for an entire season. The next growing season the plant took off like never before. That plant currently sits at 9ft tall, 4ft wide, threatens to take over the fence and grows the biggest black-caps I've ever seen.
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For terrestrial plants, this is a real thing. There are NGOs in the developing world that encourage poor subsistence farmers who can't afford any manure-producing animals or commercial fertilizer to use urine-diverting toilets. It is diluted it 1:10 with water to use to fertilize crops--and apparently works really well. In addition to N, it's supposed a rich source of phosphorus. In Sweden they've experimented with precipitating out struvite from sewage water for agricultural purposes.

I have heard about using it as the ammonia source for fishless cycling--wasn't sure if it as a joke or not. Agree this could not be good for fish with all the sodium, not to mention most medicines are renally processed. Toxic materials & stench aside, not sure how the people on here who carefully titrate their EI doses here would determine how to dose this. Eating a big steak could dramatically up the nitrogen levels, and let's not even think about the effects of asparagus, or beets....

I think people can go back to arguing about the relative benefits of water column dosing vs substrate fertilizing
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I believe was once a common practice in some reefing communities to cycle tanks as well.
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