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Thatís the idea, you need to keep up with new water during water changes to maintain it.

Let me point you to where it all got started for me... worth a read through, many good posts further down as well.

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Thank you for the link and this thread! It might be a cheaper alternative to getting an RO system since it would be for a nano tank with aqua soil. All I'd really want to do is remove KH to keep the soil from becoming exhausted.
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Man I hope you guys are taking the proper precautions and have the right type of facility to be working with HCL.

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LOL, the lab pic returns :-)
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Man I hope you guys are taking the proper precautions and have the right type of facility to be working with HCL.

Here's Burr's lab to give an idea of what he is up to.........................................

HA!

Wouldn't this stuff be more diluted and safer to work with? https://www.homedepot.com/p/Klean-St...5006/202690263
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LOL, the lab pic returns :-)
An oldie but goodie!

Seemed appropriate to bust it out again.
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The Home Depot product, Klean Strip - Muriatic Acid is also a 32% product at listed here
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The Home Depot product, Klean Strip - Muriatic Acid is also a 32% product at listed here
Thank you, Immortal!

OP, sorry to hijack your thread.
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Dammit @Greggz I asked you to not post pictures of my house!

And yeah I dont think anyone is gonna use HCL to kill algae, it was just an idle curiosity
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Wow very nice. Have you found this method to be stable, as in, the KH remains gone indefinitely?
I'm no expert in chemistry but I did look it up little bit. It seems HCl burns the Carbonate permenantly. This is the reaction

CaCO3 + HCl → CaCl2 + H2O + CO2

I believe it is not CaCO3 in the tank, but the reaction would be the same. So it converts to Co2 and H2O and CaCl2 (again not sure of CaCl2) and the co2 is removed from the water as gas. So I think it would be permenant. Any thoughts ?
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I'm also curious, aside from the obvious safety concerns while handling the acid, is there any downside or dangerous side-effect for plants or livestock?
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Yep, its permanent
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For what it's worth - the Mad Scientist is playing around with unstable chemicals as I type... (boom)
5 minute readings after dosing 3ml 32% HCL to 20g water.
Results to follow...

Bump:
5:10pm / 7.2pH / 5.0dKH - added 3ml 32% Sunnyside Muratic Acid
5:15pm / 6.9pH / 4.5dKH
5:20pm / 6.9pH / 4.0dKH
5:25pm / 6.9pH / 4.0dKH
5:30pm / 7.0pH / 4.0dKH


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3 ml might drop 20 gal a point


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3 ml might drop 20 gal a point
In my opinion, that is exactly what it did.
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The Home Depot product, Klean Strip - Muriatic Acid is also a 32% product at listed here


My local HD doesnít carry that, only this, which I believe is simply a lower concentration therefore less fumes as the advertisement states. Wish they would post the amount.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Klean-St...5006/202690263

Thereís also an HDX brand muriatic acid for pools which is about 15% almost same price for 2 gallons, may be ďsaferĒ to handle. If this works well I may consider it.



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