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From one extreme to the other

I moved houses, some of you will remember I had issues with several plants, p. Kimberley being one, and AR mini.
Well I've moved to another house in the same town but we have a different utility company and brand new piping.

Well both of those plants grow beautifully now, my AR mini is actually on par with some of the best I've seen now, and Kimberley doesn't stint at all.
I used to have GORGEOUS blyxa, and staurogyne and hydrocotyle Japan grew like weeds.
Now blyxa leaves fall off at the top as fast as they grow back, Japan doesn't even form leaves it's just stems, and staurogyne leaves droop down and don't grow much.
My ludwigia super red also sometimes has huge leaves and sometimes has tiny leaves.

I haven't had a drop of black beard algae, or any algae at all! and I even moved my quad T5 down so it's about 4 inches from the surface.

Everything else is the same except source water which actually comes from the same river.
Bizarre!

P.s. the pictures don't do the colors justice, my ludwigia super red is the brightest red I've ever seen, but the camera picks up some greens in the AR mini for some reason.Click image for larger version

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I moved houses, some of you will remember I had issues with several plants, p. Kimberley being one, and AR mini.
Well I've moved to another house in the same town but we have a different utility company and brand new piping.

Everything else is the same except source water which actually comes from the same river.
Bizarre!
Welcome back!
Have you observed any differences in water test results?
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Good to see you back.

Interesting stuff.

More mysteries of the planted tank!
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I moved houses, some of you will remember I had issues with several plants, p. Kimberley being one, and AR mini.
Well I've moved to another house in the same town but we have a different utility company and brand new piping.

Well both of those plants grow beautifully now, my AR mini is actually on par with some of the best I've seen now, and Kimberley doesn't stint at all.
I used to have GORGEOUS blyxa, and staurogyne and hydrocotyle Japan grew like weeds.
Now blyxa leaves fall off at the top as fast as they grow back, Japan doesn't even form leaves it's just stems, and staurogyne leaves droop down and don't grow much.
My ludwigia super red also sometimes has huge leaves and sometimes has tiny leaves.

I haven't had a drop of black beard algae, or any algae at all! and I even moved my quad T5 down so it's about 4 inches from the surface.

Everything else is the same except source water which actually comes from the same river.
Bizarre!

P.s. the pictures don't do the colors justice, my ludwigia super red is the brightest red I've ever seen, but the camera picks up some greens in the AR mini for some reason.
Hi @Chlorophile,

+1 for Edwards comment, what water parameters can you give us?

Also, tank size, what you are dosing, how much, how often?

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Thanks for the welcome back guys,

Well the way everything went down the dosing has gone through a few stages.
I moved in to my new house almost 2 months ago, and at first I had the tank at my moms house with just the filter running, bare bottom, no light, no plants.

Plants were in a bucket in the half basement near a window getting some light but that was it.

Moved in here and bleached the tank out, accidentally left too much bleach in the tank and put all my plants in, most of them melted down to stems, but all the algae on them also got NUKED.
Fish went in about 24 hours later to make sure tank wasn't leaking from the move, etc, substrate was a brand new bag of BDBS

Tank is a 33 gal, 18" tall, 24x18 width and length.
Got the co2 cranked up per usual and started dosing 1/4 tsp KNO3 for about 8 PPM no3 - P at my usual 1/8 tsp or 3.0 PPM, and K at practically zilch.. 1/16 tsp 3x a week.

Immediately I could tell something was different, I was seeing great pearling and plants were taking off.

Then my co2 tank ran out and I was so busy I went 2 weeks with no co2, my light was still on FULL, lower than I ever had it before, NO ALGAE! WHAT IN THE WORLD. The only algae left in the tank is a few small clumps of BBA that survived the bleach on the Hydrocotyle Japan, but they're kinda brown and they dont grow or spread
Then I filled the co2 tank and realized I was out of Burr's Micro Mix, so I've been using left over Thrive+ 2 or 3 squirts every other day.

I did notice the Blyxa is doing worse on the Thrive+ with co2 than it was on the dry ferts (or even no ferts and no co2 which lasted a couple weeks)but other than that not much difference.

Haven't actually tested the water yet, I have been so busy, and today It dawned on me that my one melted bleached stem of AR Mini had grown into a nice little mound and I was like "OH CRUD, I gotta get back on planted tank!!"

I'll pull some water tests after work tomorrow, but I am leaning towards this being Calcium driven, I remember the water guy from my old utilities district telling me they use some Calcium process and then they try to remove as much of it as they can.
This place might do something different, I'm thinking calcium is much much lower here and some plants are loving it and others are hating it, inverse of the old water!

https://www.cudrc.com/wp-content/upl...ity-Report.pdf
This is my water quality report but nothing too relevant on there!
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Hi @Chlorophile,

I checked out the CUDRC website and found this:
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The average hardness for 2009 was 193 which equals 11.3 grains.
Which equates to a hardness of 11.6 dGH, not overly hard but not soft either. Of course we don't know what divalent metals comprise that 11.6 dGH.

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